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Old 02-16-2008, 01:00:15 PM   #1
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1970 real Z28?

Hello folks,
My father is selling a 1970 Z28 (or we've always believed it to be). But the last guy that came out to see it, said it wasn't a real Z because the cowl stamp wasn't what he expected to see. Now I don't know alot about this cowl topic, and I've been reading alot on the internet and their's mixed info on whether the Cowl's are a) always' stamped as a Z, and b) accurate between 69 and 70 production model year cars. I don't know what internet info to believe and what to brush under the rug. My question is, is there any way I can tell for SURE that this is a real Z28? The car is modified for racing (slicks, built up 302, etc...) So I know not all the motor and engine compartment chromed out, tranny and rear end parts are probably not going to match, but as far as the body and chasis goes, how do I tell if it's a REAL Z?

Thanks for any help you can provide.
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Old 02-16-2008, 01:03:53 PM   #2
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If the car was built in Los Angeles the cowl won't have z28 on it.
Check for stripe color on tag.
Also check gas pedal attached to floor at bottom of pedal and 6500rpm redline on tach.
12 bolt rearend only.
Look for build sheet on top of gas tank or under rear seats.
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Old 02-16-2008, 01:07:02 PM   #3
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If the car was built in Norwood, the cowl tag will be stamped Z28 or 28. If the car was built at Van Nuys, the cowl tag has no information to help you. You need other documentation to identify a Van Nuys Z28. The good news is that most Van Nuys cars have build sheets that identify them.
There are clues even on a Van Nuys car. All 70 Z28s came with a 12 bolt rear end. They have a floor mounted gas pedal unlike the hanging gas pedal used on all other Camaros. They have aluminum spacers under the front suspension bump stops. They have fangs or bumperettes under the rear bumper. The only other 70 Camaros that got the rear bumperettes were the ones that were ordered with the rubber bumper protector strips, and this is an unusual option.
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Old 02-16-2008, 01:08:01 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by jims73z
If the car was built in Los Angeles the cowl won't have z28 on it.
Check for stripe color on tag.
Also check gas pedal attached to floor at bottom of pedal and 6500rpm redline on tach.
12 bolt rearend only.
Look for build sheet on top of gas tank or under rear seats.

Thanks for the reply!

I believe my father checked into this last week and he said it was built in Los Angeles. What would I be looking for on the underside of the gas pedal?
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Old 02-16-2008, 01:21:56 PM   #5
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on non z28 cars the pedal is attached to the firewall and on 70-72 z28s the bottom of the pedal is attached to the floor
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Old 02-16-2008, 02:59:10 PM   #6
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search this site, there are pictures from previous threads ...

here is one:

http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showth...=z28+gas+pedal
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Old 02-16-2008, 03:05:00 PM   #7
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Hello folks,
My father is selling a 1970 Z28 (or we've always believed it to be). But the last guy that came out to see it, said it wasn't a real Z because the cowl stamp wasn't what he expected to see. Now I don't know alot about this cowl topic, and I've been reading alot on the internet and their's mixed info on whether the Cowl's are a) always' stamped as a Z, and b) accurate between 69 and 70 production model year cars. I don't know what internet info to believe and what to brush under the rug. My question is, is there any way I can tell for SURE that this is a real Z28? The car is modified for racing (slicks, built up 302, etc...) So I know not all the motor and engine compartment chromed out, tranny and rear end parts are probably not going to match, but as far as the body and chasis goes, how do I tell if it's a REAL Z?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

all REAL 70 Z28's had (originally anyway)

rear spoiler (most were one piece)
rear sway bar (upper link mounts were welded to the frame rails)
12 bolt rear
power disc brakes
8,000 rpm tach
Muncie 4 speed of some sort or Turbo 400 automatic (if auto, the T400 trans crossmember is unique)
the already mentioned alum spacers on the front lower contol arm bump stops
the already mentioned rear bumper guards
the floor mounted hinge gas pedal (think mid 60 Chevy truck)

IF the lookie lous you have coming over are not smart enough to know what a Van Nuys built car is and WHY the trim tag is different, send them packing, you don't want to waste your time with them
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Old 02-16-2008, 11:04:36 PM   #8
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I don't believe you can get A/C with a 70 Z also, to add to the list.
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Old 02-17-2008, 06:08:47 PM   #9
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Thanks for all the great info, turns out, everything checks out!
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