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Old 09-07-2009, 01:08:54 PM   #1
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Cubital Tunnel Syndrome, how to fix?

Anyone have this and what did you do to get rid of it. By sleeping with my arm straight I have gotten rid of most of the numbness in my two small fingers but I have lost nearly all strength on picking things up with my fingers, pain on the top of my forearm and elbow pain when moving the arm. This is starting to impact shooting my pistol and many actions like picking up a gun case from the handle while my arm is outstretched. Been a month and a half, and like most guys I thought it will go away if I just waited it out but it is getting worse for the strength issues.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:15:36 PM   #2
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The internet or a Doctor.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:25:37 PM   #3
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I had and have the same problems. The specialist that I went to grilled me on my work and how I performed my work. First thing that she had me stop doing was using my hands for hammers (EX: using a clenched hand to "bang" panels back onto machines). I also had to inventory my hammers and change the handles to fiberglass (adsorbs shock) handles on the heavy ones (especially 32 oz. ones).

I also got wrist braces to wear to augment my wrist strength. As for meds, I remember taking a lot of anti-infamitory drugs (Aleeve?) and icing the area. Eventually, the soreness went away but it took a LONG time before it did.

As for shooting, I miss shooting my pistols but I can't do that because of my neck and back problems although a .45 ACP probably wouldn't help the wrist problems either.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:32:52 PM   #4
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I believe my injury was from pull starting my chainsaw. It does not always pull smooth from the compression. It is a medium size saw with a 28" bar and I cut 11 chords of wood in a month, a lot of cutting and starting the saw.

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Old 09-07-2009, 02:21:53 PM   #5
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Ive never posted details about this but if it helps someone I will be glad I did.

Cubital tunnel, I know this very well. My wife was dignosed with severe cubital tunnel, carpal tunnel, trigger fingers and trigger thumbs.

See a doctor, get treatment. Am I overreacting, no.


My wife worked for the sheriff's department for 11 years in the civil section for the courts.
6 years ago my wife complained of numbness and pain in her hands to her employer. She was told it was nothing and that if she used sick leave for that, it would cause a case back load and be reflected in her evaluation.

Fast forward three years later. She eventually saw a specialist in Beverly Hills California, a Neurosurgeon who wrote the book on nerve injuries and treatment for the State of California Workers Compensation Board.

"If you would have seen me sooner, you would have a job and a career, you are done, the damage is too severe."

Address this and address this now.

Pain is your body's way of saying, "HEY STUPID, SOMETHINGS WRONG!" she ignored it and paid dearly.

Please have a doctor look at this, left untreated the symptoms beome extreme and permanent. The nerves swell from irratation but cant swell without pushing on the channels that hold the nerves. The swelling causes tissue scaring, eventually surgery is ineffective because of the damage. Normally they can increase the width of the channel the nerves sit in so when they swell, they dont push on the wall.

She is 100% disabled now. She cant hold a plate, hold a cup, writes like she is 5 years old and the burning and pain is 24 hours a day. One doctor had the balls to tell her, "Well your career with the sheriff's department is over, the only jobs I can think of are Grape stomper or Wal-mart greeter." I almost went to jail that day when she came home and cried and sobbed for almost 5 hours.

Just my .02 cents
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:26:34 PM   #6
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I will get it looked at. ^^^^. Thanks for the input. I actually have a small case of it in my left arm too but mainly numbness, not loss of strength like the right side. It's tough getting older.
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:00:34 PM   #7
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Do what MidnightBlue72 said, my wife worked for Bank of America for 20 years, and wend our on medical with Cubital Tunnel Syndrome. The bank paid for the surgery and paid her workers comp until she retired 3 years later.

The surgery worked, she hasn't had any problems since.
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Old 09-07-2009, 07:09:32 PM   #8
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I figure it's like my Laminectomy L-4/5 lower back nerve hole ream out operation except in an arm or wrist.

GET it done!!

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Old 09-07-2009, 09:48:11 PM   #9
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Midnight hit it 100%. Do not wait it out. By the time you feel the pain, damage has already occurred. By the time you lose strength, you have permanent neurolgical damage that might never come back. In minor cases injections of anti-inflammatory can work well. In moderate cases, surgery can fix the issue. By the time they have to do relocation surgery and such, they are trying to salvage some use from the arm. Get to a specialist right now. Do not waste time on PT, you are past that if you have loss of strength and sensation.
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Old 09-07-2009, 10:03:27 PM   #10
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try and stay away from getting neurosurgery done that inolves nerve repair . i'm dealing with phrenic nerve palsy from the surgery i had 6 months ago
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Damn,....I'm sorry to hear about all this 'permanent' injury stuff people are having...and the 'company' blaming 'THEM' for wanting to go out on medical.

I'd have gone to the ALCU or some lawyer to get what I had coming....harassment at its finest. I mean, if they're telling you going out on sick leave with an injury and its going to 'reflect on your eval'....come on....

Anyhows...I hope you get your fix Shawn. I have a similar issue with tingling on my lower/smaller 2 fingers when my arm is bent more then 90 degrees, especially when I sleep or drive. Guess next time something bigger happens its doc time....
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Old 09-07-2009, 10:30:40 PM   #12
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Anyhows...I hope you get your fix Shawn. I have a similar issue with tingling on my lower/smaller 2 fingers when my arm is bent more then 90 degrees, especially when I sleep or drive. Guess next time something bigger happens its doc time....rscamaro73

That is what I had before the major loss in strength. I now cringe when I have to shake hands and I'm not ready to give everyone hugs. Shaking hands is probably one of the worst pains I have going, and to make matters worse I have no strength so it is a light handshake instead of the normal hearty handshake. You may want to go in earlier from what I've seen after reading these posts.
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:28:56 PM   #13
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I had carpal tunnel in both hands. Talk about bad luck. Essentially, it is a narrowing of the tunnel that encompasses some very important nerves and tendons. It is progressive. I put it off for a couple of years and just suffered through it as it became worse. I finally had both hands operated on this past spring. It took 2-3 months, but the strength has come almost all the way back. And, I sleep without waking up in pain. Do whatever your Dr. suggests. Mine was surgery. I do not regret it and to have the strength that I once had 20 years ago is well worth it. You will be much happier once you take care of the problem.

It will not go away without treatment.
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I also hand carpel tunnel syndrome in both wrists and needed surgery to fix it. Had it done over 10 years ago and my hands still feel great (I'm a cabinet maker and a guitar and piano player so I use my hands alot). However, what you have is different and I can't relate to your problems although I feel for you. Here is something I googled that may help, if you haven't read it already. http://www.eatonhand.com/hw/hw007.htm
Shawn, I hope things work out for you and like others have said, don't wait!
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Damn,....I'm sorry to hear about all this 'permanent' injury stuff people are having...and the 'company' blaming 'THEM' for wanting to go out on medical.

I'd have gone to the ALCU or some lawyer to get what I had coming....harassment at its finest. I mean, if they're telling you going out on sick leave with an injury and its going to 'reflect on your eval'....come on....

Anyhows...I hope you get your fix Shawn. I have a similar issue with tingling on my lower/smaller 2 fingers when my arm is bent more then 90 degrees, especially when I sleep or drive. Guess next time something bigger happens its doc time....

We hired an attorney and they fired her under the "Unfit for duty" section in our general orders. Ya see, counties and cities often are self-insured, meaning they set their own rules as it relates to accepting or denying a workers comp injury.

She eventually won her case, received a small cash settlement and no monthly payments. As luck would have it, I got injured about a year after she was terminated and then medically retired.

Our county's new motto is, "Welcome aboard, we eat our young and the defenseless."
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