1973 Camaro Restoration/Build- Bein Bad

Discussion in 'Project Progress' started by 7/3-SplitRS, May 5, 2017.

  1. mrfleet12

    mrfleet12 Veteran Member

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    When I do my cars and a few others with my brothers (between the 3 of us, we've had well over 150), we looked at it from a few ways..
    List out the large tasks, then break them down into sub tasks (if needed), write them down on a white board or large piece of paper so the visual is there.. Lining things off keep you motivated..
    In some cases you have to look at the overall and how one thing impacts another, building a cage would be easier with the doors off the car (IMO), so that could be a major project to start with, cage is done, move to adding sheet metal to the outside and then to body work..
    Making a plan, writing it down, sticking to it, but knowing it can be flexible as needed helps you stay on task and see the small and large accomplishments..

    I had a supervisor that use to say, "fail to plan, plan to fail", make a plan and start moving along, adjust the plan as needed, there really isn't a set way to rebuild a car step by step, they're all different..

    Come spring time I can run up your way with mine to give you motivation..

    Good luck
    Fleet
    Motivation <-- link to my brother driving mine, he was afraid to get on it:)

     
  2. 92RS305

    92RS305 Keeping the sound of Cammed V8s alive and well.

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    Good insights, might be a good separate thread, for all when you get to how to... perform a build or restoration. I like the idea of the white board goes along with six sigma and other methodologies. Prior to moving from the midwest, I was a high level manager with an integrated corrugator plant prior to them selling off to another integrated. One of the last projects I did was a team building exercise doing a car build on a 81 Firebird. The plant across the street was building a 69 Mustang for a similar reason, and we planned to (friendly) race when done. Our car was going to Mecum after we did some 1/4 strip times. The money from the sale was to be donated to a local woman's shelter. We had a budget, Corporate Approval, 100 employees involved, a full machine shop, Grainger on speed dial..., and a GM that didn't give a crap and he killed it. I still have the car, its from Iowa so really rusty so its going to be Mad-Maxed out eventually.

    I just finished the first part of a 87 Caprice build, took way too long. The customer brought it in for a trans swap after he broke the 2004R I let him borrow. He brought it in puking water out the driver side pipe. Both head gaskets blown, smashed the oil pan into a speed bump in Tucson, bent the bottom lip of the front cover, so I went ahead and rebuilt the engine as well..., lost my a## on that one. I ended up using the Magnets that come with Rock Auto orders to hold the check sheets I made for the build. As things got done I checked it off. I made another list of items needed, and checked off as those orders were filled/purchased.

    I am new to this forum so if beneficial to start a thread on how to spec out and complete a project..., might be a good thing?
     

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  3. dave@ztech

    dave@ztech Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    I think, with doing this to a car with a plan, and then sticking to that plan is a great idea, however, it's like an onion, and as you get into the layers the plan changes, I think a budget is a better way,how much do you want to spend, research the cost of what it will take to get it to where you want, then add for the unforeseeable , and see if you are within your budget, HAA HA
     
  4. 92RS305

    92RS305 Keeping the sound of Cammed V8s alive and well.

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    Just out of curiosity and the process/industrial engineering creeping back in..., I calculated total elapsed time for the 87 Caprice was 129 total hours over 18 days from drop off to break in and test drive. The car was dropped off Jan 5th 2019, the transmission was "knocking" (never heard that one before) and the drivers side pipe was blowing vast amounts of steam.

    Jan 7th started the tear down and inspection and found transmission accumulator (plastic) piston shattered, AC mounting broken, sheared bolts in mounting holes, AC held on by ratchet strap, both valve covers significant leak, oil pan dented and front cover bent forward, major leak at this lower edge. Ordered the parts needed, which started coming in the 15th.

    The engine and trans was pulled as a unit and dissembled. I didn't have to but replaced the cam with one of more duration and lift. Every thing was pulled apart soaked in cleaner, repainted or polished, and reassembled with new parts and new bolts. Every exposed bolt was painted, all electrical was inspected, repaired or replaced as needed. First firing was Feb 12, break in, test drive and delivery the next day.

    In this case 129 total hours I feel is excessive, yet most of it due to the shop not being fully setup and things not organized yet, plus a lot of juggling between other mobile mechanic work, Army Reserve, and a couple of other things going on. Originally the project was just to switch the trans and convert from 2004R to THM350, which should have been 2 days absolute max. The shop was not setup to bring on a full restructure as this one was. The work bench covered with boxes of stuff, tools still in boxes and another full storage unit I have not even brought over yet and only working out of my small box on the bench. Building a car with tools spread out on the floor is not the way..., but got it to work.

    The next project coming in is a small escort that was vandalized by someone throwing multiple colors of paint on it and knocking out one of the front headlamps. So far we are about 3 days into it its about 3/4 in primer as the best was just to sand it back down to original paint , fix minor dents and etc..., and then repaint.

    Next week I plan to go look at a 90 RS with blown V6, if I can get it, I think either the 327 I have or a 383 will be a nice start.
     
  5. 92RS305

    92RS305 Keeping the sound of Cammed V8s alive and well.

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    Just for fun and as a WTF moment..., I wondered what would a 2001 Escort that is more boring than watching concrete dry look like with a wing? So I made one for it. I still have to convert it over to aluminum sheet and finish the paint. Granted this car will have 0 - 60 times some where in the neighborhood of being nap time, but..., pics attached.
     

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    YAAEEHHHHS YOU MUST DO THAT WING!!!!!
     
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    That wing is mind blowing!

    ..but...aren't those fins a little dangerous? I mean like a slicer..
     
  8. 92RS305

    92RS305 Keeping the sound of Cammed V8s alive and well.

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    Only if I put them on the hood, then would have to run it out as mad max, zombie killer, or for wasteland weekend..
     
  9. 92RS305

    92RS305 Keeping the sound of Cammed V8s alive and well.

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    Picked up some .090 Aluminum sheet.
     

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    92RS305 Keeping the sound of Cammed V8s alive and well.

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    Other items preempted doing much to the wing since last post, but was able to start on it last night. I picked up LED light bar to go under the bottom edge when finished and today supposed to pick up a paint booth. This car will be a real sleeper; meaning it's so slow it will probably put you to sleep while driving, but it will look cool. Now only if I had a big block for it.
     

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