74 vega wagon right price so maybe...

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  1. Chevrolaine

    Chevrolaine Veteran Member Gold Member

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    I built this one in High School. 350/TH350, Maverick 8" rearend was a perfect width. Loved that car. Sold it for $1500.00 and was quite happy!:screwup:
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    Bought this Monza a couple years later, also had a factory V8. FUN Car!:cool:
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    Info about the Vega's being shipped.
    Until the early 1960s, automobiles moved by rail were carried in boxcars. These were 50 feet long with double-wide doors.
    Inside was room for four full-sized sedans on a two-tier rack - two raised up off the floor on a steel rack and two others tucked in underneath them.
    This protected the cars during transport but wasn’t very efficient, as the weight of four vehicles was far less than the maximum weight a boxcar that size could carry.
    When 85-foot and 89-foot flatcars came into service, it was possible to pack a total of fifteen automobiles in one car on tri-level auto racks.
    But it still didn’t approach the maximum allowable weight for each flatcar.

    When Chevrolet started designing Vega during the late 1960s, one of the main objectives was to keep the cost of the car down around $2,000 in circa-1970 dollars.
    At the time, the freight charge for moving a loaded railroad car from the Lordstown, OH assembly plant to the Pacific coast -
    the longest distance cars produced at Lordstown would need to travel - was around $4,800.
    Since the Vega was a subcompact, it was possible to squeeze three more cars on a railroad car for a total of eighteen, instead of the usual fifteen.
    But that still worked out to around $300 per car – a substantial surcharge for a $2000 car.
    If only Chevrolet could get more Vegas on a railroad car, the cost per unit of hauling them would go down.

    The engineers at GM and Southern Pacific Railroad came up with a clever solution.
    Instead of loading the cars horizontally, the Vegas were to be placed vertically on a specially designed auto-rack called the Vert-A-Pac.
    Within the same volume of an 89-foot flatcar, the Vert-A-Pac system could hold as many as 30 automobiles instead of 18.

    Chevrolet's goal was to deliver Vegas topped with fluids and ready to drive to the dealership.
    In order to be able to travel nose-down without leaking fluids all over the railroad,
    Vega engineers had to design a special engine oil baffle to prevent oil from entering the No. 1 cylinder.
    Batteries had filler caps located high up on the rear edge of the case to prevent acid spilling, the carburetor float bowl
    had a special tube that drained gasoline into the vapor canister during shipment, and the windshield washer bottle stood at a 45 degree angle.
    Plastic spacers were wedged in beside the powertrain to prevent damage to engine and transmission mounts.
    The wedges were removed when cars were unloaded.

    The Vega was hugely popular when it was introduced in 1970, however it quickly earned a reputation for unreliability, rust and terrible engine durability.
    When the Vega was discontinuedin 1977, the Vert-A-Pac cars had to be retired as they were too specialized to be used with anything else.
    The Vert-A-Pac racks were scrapped, and the underlying flatcars went on to other uses.
     
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    I was wondering how they dealt with these type issues in order to ship vertically. Thanks for the info. Pretty cool, never had any idea cars were shipped this way.
     
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    Think I may grab it, spoke to the guy today said the trans will not got into 2nd or third it's a th350. He said it went in once but for the most part sticks in 1st. He's about an hour away from me mostly highway and in NJ if your not doing at least 65 your toast.

    I was hoping maybe it slipped in 3rd so I could at least get it up to 50.

    I may have a trans for it so i'm not that worried.
     
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    Worth a grand all day long!! I sold one nearly identical to it 2 years ago for $400.00 with the 4 cylinder in it. The guy still wants to castrate me because it had rust underneath!
    I'm like, "dude, they came new that way!":crazy: But man is he pissed.:rolleyes:
     
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    Sory after looking at hbody.org I have no idea what it has in it. Even with a 350/TH350 laying around this doesn't sound like a weekend drop in. Would love to do it but WOW sounds like allot of hacking and welding.
     
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    No, it's not that bad at all. Plenty of companies out there sell V8 Vega conversion kits relatively cheap that makes it a breeze. DO IT!:cool:
     
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    vegas never had a factory V8 . the monza definitely did but the vega only had a 4 cylinder .
     
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    Didn't mean that to sound like they did, but ya..it sorta does.;)
    No need to school me on Vega's, I've had more than I do underwear!:crazy:
     
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    Too bad for him, once he hands over the cash and the title's signed it's a done deal. He should of checked it over better, unless you went out of your way to hide something, like the saying goes buyer beware. You buy a used car check it out good and if you miss something oh well lesson learned. But for 400 bucks you really can't complain too much no matter what.
     
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    just wondering . here is another vertipac shot . [​IMG] ... ... remember this monza ? yours looked like a spider . it was a IMSA GT body kit type special edition . [​IMG] .. my friend brought one brand new in 77 and destroyed the 305 with in the year . he brought my 68 chevelle L79 327/325 hp and muncie 4 speed ( that all thats came on the L79 ) had them both rebuilt and put in the mirage . that was a fun car too . [​IMG]
     
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