'94 Firebird LT1 into '78 Camaro project back on

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    The upper control arm was holding the LT1 from dropping down low enough to
    put the through bolt into the motor mount.

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    There was a LOT of shims in between the cross shaft and the frame :

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    The rubber hose from the aux tank for the power steering is kinked by the upper
    a-arm stamping, this isnt going to fly. I am looking at PTFB arms to solve this :

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    They are going to send me pictures comparing stock arms to their arms ...

    Tom
     
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    Decided to install the Blazer driveshaft today, and mess with the Shifterworks
    kit I got earlier this week. The driveshaft is from a mid 80s 2WD Blazer. I made
    a quick-n-dirty template from the old driveshaft to see how far it was into the
    back of the trans and where the seal rode. The yoke on the '78 driveshaft is
    the same length as the Blazer driveshaft (so the end of the cardboard is how
    far the tip is inside). The black line is where the seal rode.

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    As you can see it ends up VERY close to stock, not bad for a 15 dollar part!

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    Here are a couple more pictures of the LT1 installed that my wife took :

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    Ordered an '86 Camaro IROC box from Oreillys ($117 plus $25 core charge) to
    quicken the steering from 3.5 turns to 2.5 turns & allow me to run Impala SS
    metric power steering hoses (not confirmed yet but I have both now to try).
    Ordered the bare PTFB upper control arms and Moog upper ball joints with a
    discount code from RockAuto ($20.99 a piece).

    Anyone know what the average wait time is for PTFB? I hear they are quick.

    Tom
     
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    I'm really interested in the progress here. The LT1 looks great in that engine bay! Makes me really excited for my install when the weather gets a bit warmer. Nice work!
     
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    Thanks, it does look great in there, I wish it had not sat out in the salt air for as
    long as it did (and even got poo on by raccoons when I left the hood open) and
    got so aged looking. I figure once it starts running frequently, the heat and a
    little WD40 should bring some of that aluminum back.

    It was so annoying while it sat in the Firebird engine bay, if I left the hood down
    the rats or mice built a nest on the intake and had an orgy. So I left the hood
    open during the summer months and the damn raccoons went onto the engine
    and Dookie all over it. I was so shocked, Dookie on my LT1?? Who does that? WTF?

    I guess you could say this LT1 has had a pretty Dookie existence in recent years!

    Tom
     
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    I fought like crazy today with the steering box to get the pitman arm off. I used
    a puller, and a sledge, and heat and PB blaster and lots of sware words (yah the
    sware words usually work!) and it would NOT come off. I pretty much gave up
    and then I read to try putting the box on the ground, with the shaft down onto
    the floor and HIT the arm directly downward. I tried that and about 5 hits and
    it came off!! Tomorrow should simply be bolting things on, the box, the PS lines
    and some measurements for the radiator. I still have not heard back from the
    forum member that used the lower bracing from a '94 Firebird to mount the core
    into the Camaro. Just one of two pictures would have helped a lot.:screwup:

    Tom
     
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    Well ... the Power Steering pump is DIFFERENT on the Impala SS. The pressure
    line comes out the BACK on the Impala SS and out the SIDE on the F-body. :confused:
    So I had to do some MAJOR rebending of the pump end, the other end was small
    stuff, and I had to make a bracket to hold the hose away from the steering. The
    return line was simple stuff, took all but 10 minutes for a slight rebend. So the
    Impala SS lines will work, but the pump end is basically bend the exact opposite
    to what you WANT. I dont think the line would work if you are using the A/C in
    the 4th Gen F-body location. I will eventually put it in the Corvette location, it
    is the same as the original location for the 78 Camaro.

    Wife took the digital camera down to Northridge with her, so sorry no pictures of
    the parts before and after or during the install. I will take a few when I can, its
    going to most likely be next weekend, and is the finished PS install.

    Tom
     
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    Here are some pictures of the IROC box, and the Impala SS lines installed :

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    Here are the spark plug wires re-routed through the vacant area the A/C pump
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    Tom
     
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    Next was the radiator, first attempt was pounding all the flaps flat except the
    end one on the drivers side and drilling a couple holes. This should do nicely if
    you want to mount the radiator straight up. Problem is, the cap is dangerously
    close to the hood and the A/C condenser sits on the hump of the crossmember.

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    I wasnt too impressed with this, and it also left the drivers side hose barb in
    direct line with the steering box.

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    Tom
     
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    So, in hopes of installing the radiator at close to the 4th gen lean, I borrowed
    my neighbors sawsall and started cutting.

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    I made two cuts, one of either side, but not all the way through the part to the
    front of the bracket.

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    Then I cut a few spots (trying to figure out what I could save and how I can
    separate the pieces (I only wanted the top stamping, its a spot welded box).
    Then I cut all the way across the front of the box.

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    Unfortunately I cut too far and during the attempt to break the spot welds, I
    snapped the whole piece loose.

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    So flipped it over and drilled them from behind.

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    Then cut the boogared edge off.

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    Then bent it to fit.

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