Cheapest way to lower the front end ?

Discussion in 'Suspension, Steering, Brake & Wheel Topics' started by Docs Motorcycle Shoppe, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. Jon Randolph

    Jon Randolph Member

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    This is just what comes with modifying parts. One thing leads to another. As mentioned, you can pretty much drop the car 1.5” up front without even changing a spring. The moment you start cutting springs or installing “shorter” ones, you start losing available suspension compression travel.
     
  2. 1971CamaroGuy

    1971CamaroGuy LS Swapped 1971 Camaro

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    Moog 5610 in the front of my 71 ...changing to Hotchkis next chance I get...but those springs dropped it a lot and you can get them for under $100

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    I found a set on amazon. Would you recommend them for a 1978 with a 350 in it? How much did they lower? Did you lower the rear too?
     
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    Thats funny you mention using our springs, and global west. Those and the Hotchkis are all made by the same company, while we all have slightly different specs, they are pretty close. The Hotchkis are too low in my opinion, our spring is about 3/8" higher usually depending on what spring of theres you are comparing to. We also have spacers to raise car about 3/8-1/2"
     
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    See below, pictures comparing all springs mentioned along with getting the ride height adjusted......

    CW spring compared to Global West spring compared to Rancho spring (Challenger GTIII Suspension). CW 600# (I think) and GW 700#are the same free height. Post 213.

    http://www.nastyz28.com/threads/1978-z28-seee-ya.276139/page-22#post-3367712

    Here is the Hotchkis 1908F spring vs the GW spring. Hotchkis #600 are definitely taller in terms of free height than the Custom works springs. Post 504

    http://www.nastyz28.com/threads/1978-z28-seee-ya.276139/page-51#post-3697027

    Ride height with CW Springs 13" to center of hub. It eventually settled to 12.5" on both the CW and GW springs. Post #200, 207, 210 and some beyond. Post 211, same issue with PTFB Spring from someone else. post #221 has ride height measurements with GW Spring and 3/4" spacer also pics before and after with CW and GW springs.

    http://www.nastyz28.com/threads/1978-z28-seee-ya.276139/page-20#post-3360132

    Post #515 pics with Hotchkis spring and same 3/4" spacers. 14" center of hub to fender lip. At least on my car the Hotchkis springs are definitely taller when installed.

    https://nastyz28.com/threads/1978-z28-seee-ya.276139/page-52#post-3706722

    CW and GW both had me sitting on the snubbers even with the 3/4" spacers in. Hotchkis did as well with a 1/4" spacer, but has me a 1/4" above with the 3/4" spacer. I wish I had measured the Rancho springs before I took them out.

    I found the Konis on the lightest setting still rode too harsh and switched to the Varishock double adjustable shocks which ride much better with the GW springs. Konis are for sale if anyone wants them. Less than 2k miles on them.

    Every car is different, I can only speak to the experience on mine. Hopefully I will save some others some experimentation and money. After going through 3 sets of springs and 2 sets of shocks I could have put in adjustable height Coil Overs and not had to buy shocks........I wasted well over $1k......

    That is all the data on the three brands of springs; Custom Works, Global West and Hotchkis. The only brand that I have not put in yet are the Moog and but there are no plans for that....I am done with spring work for awhile.
     
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    what lower control arms are you using? That makes a difference. Also the springs from Hotchkis are likely their big block springs. Also body bushings can change these numbers.
     
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    Now that there are several F-Body custom folks...you can probably get the ride hieght you want (pretty close) on the first install...
    I have never got what i wanted right out of the box but....that was 25 yrs ago. It was common practice of install...measure... remove...cut...install...drive...measure...remove .. cut...install....finally!!!! done. Then go get alignment...lol
     

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