CO² ...Interesting take

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  1. xten

    xten Veteran Member

    Sep 24, 2014
    Pittsburgh, Pa.
    Sounds like it's pretty important to have around.




    Ian Rutherford Plimer is an Australian geologist, professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne , professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide , and the director of multiple mineral exploration and mining companies. He has published 130 scientific papers, six books and edited the Encyclopedia of Geology.

    Born: 12 February 1946 (age 69)
    Residence: Australia
    Nationality: Australian
    Fields of Study: Earth Science, Geology, Mining Engineering
    Institutions: University of New England , University of Newcastle , University of Melbourne , University of Adelaide
    Alma mater: University of New South Wales , Macquarie University
    Thesis: The pipe deposits of tungsten-molybdenum-bismuth in eastern Australia(1976)
    Notable Awards: Eureka Prize (1995,2002), Centenary Medal (2003), Clarke Medal (2004)

    Where Does the Carbon Dioxide Really Come From?

    PLIMER: "Okay, here's the bombshell. The recent volcanic eruption in Iceland . Since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet - all of you.

    Of course, you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress - it's that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all animal life.

    I's very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience and expense of driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags, sitting up till midnight to finish your kids "The Green Revolution" science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies, using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home instead of abroad, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle, replacing all of your 50p light bulbs with £5 light bulbs ..... well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the tubes in just four days.

    The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days - yes, FOUR DAYS - by that volcano in Indonesia has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud at any one time - EVERY DAY.

    I don't really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention that when the volcano Mt.Pinatubo erupted in the Philippinesin 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in all its years on earth.

    Yes, folks, Mt. Pinatubo was active for over one year - think about it!!!!

    Of course, I shouldn't spoil this 'touchy-feely tree-hugging' moment and mention the effect of solar and cosmic activity and the well-recognized 800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keeps happening despite our completely insignificant efforts to affect climate change.

    And I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud, but the fact of the matter is that the bush fire season across the western USA and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year.

    Just remember that your government tried to impose a whopping carbon tax on you, on the basis of the bogus 'human-caused' climate-change scenario.

    Hey, isn't it interesting how they don't mention 'Global Warming' anymore, but just 'Climate Change' - you know why? It's because the planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past few years and these global warming bull artists got caught with their pants down.

    And, just keep in mind that you might yet have an Emissions Trading Scheme - that whopping new tax - imposed on you that will achieve absolutely nothing except make you poorer. It won't stop any volcanoes from erupting, that's for sure.

    But, hey, relax......give the world a hug and have a nice day!"





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  2. djorgensen3

    djorgensen3 Veteran Member

    Oct 15, 2009
    Peoria, Az
    Iceland or Indonesia....which is it?
  3. Twisted_Metal

    Twisted_Metal Administrator Staff Member Lifetime Gold Member

    Feb 26, 2004
    Bloomington, MN
    It doesn't matter where the volcanoes occur... We all share the same atmosphere.

    But if you think carbon is bad for our atmosphere...
    The entire planet is doomed when the sun fuses most of its Hydrogen to Helium! :eek:
    (Mark your perpetual calender… It's only 5 billion years from now.)
  4. Shizzle

    Shizzle Veteran Member

    Aug 1, 2012
    oak lawn, illinois
    If you actually believe snopes is a reliable source, I have oceanfront land to sell you in Illinois.
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  5. FlaJunkie

    FlaJunkie Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    Rockledge, Florida
    "It is ten times as likely that atmospheric CO2 is coming from natural sources, namely the warming ocean surface, as it is likely that it is coming from anthropogenic sources. The changes in CO2 track ocean surface temperature, not global carbon emissions. Burning fossil fuels is not increasing atmospheric CO2. Recovery from the Little Ice Age, driven by the sun, is causing the oceans to release CO2. It is temperature driving CO2 release, not the other way around. Just as it has always been.

    As the sun gets quiet in the next few years, sea surface temperature will begin to fall, and the rise in CO2 will cease. If the sun stays quiet for 30 or 40 years, ocean surface temperatures will fall far enough to reverse the CO2 rise, the globe will enter a new little ice age, and things will get really interesting."
  6. Todd80Z28

    Todd80Z28 Moderator Staff Member Lifetime Gold Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Northern VA
    Are you dealing in facts or feelings?

    Pull up ANY easily accessible CO2 concentration chart for the atmosphere from the 90s- data is easily available. Now find the Mt. Pinatubo eruption signal that increased CO2 more than all since the industrial revolution. I'll wait... oh wait, IT ISN'T THERE.
    That original nonsense is SO easy to refute... SO easy, and yet "contrarian" nonsense spreads like measles.
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  7. Todd80Z28

    Todd80Z28 Moderator Staff Member Lifetime Gold Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Northern VA
    Show me the calculations.

    A source for your quotes would be nice, too. Or did you write it?
  8. Shizzle

    Shizzle Veteran Member

    Aug 1, 2012
    oak lawn, illinois

    Snopes has a tendency to deal in half truths or extreme minute details that are irrelevant to make their case. Were they actually reputable at one time?
    People lap up their assertations like they’re gospel instead of reading a full story on something.
    Now I’m not saying the volcano thing isn’t BS, that just snopes is.
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  9. dave@ztech

    dave@ztech Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

    Mar 27, 2016
    A more accurate rendering of Plimer’s claim would be something like “3500 Mount St Helens-scale volcanic ‘coughs’ in a single day might be able to produce as much CO2 as humans have added to the atmosphere through the burning of fossil fuels to date.” Such a headline would be unlikely to have the same effect as the original one, however.

    I would believe that a discredited Plimer is full of more half truths then Snopes.
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