Daytona 500

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  1. Green hornet

    Green hornet Veteran Member

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    Yesterday I watches some of the 1970 Daytona 500 on YouTube. I was interested is seeing the Plymouth Super-bird and the Dodge Charger 500 running. That go me thinking, so I decided to look up race speeds from then and now. I found the following to be interesting.

    1970 Daytona 500:
    Pole speed: 194.015 MPH
    Race average speed 149.601 MPH
    Race time 3:20:32

    2020 Daytona 500:
    Pole speed 194.582 MPH
    Race average speed 141.11 MPH
    Race time 3:42:10

    In 50 years a lot has changed but some thing still stay the same.
     
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    What was the distance from 1st to 2nd Place? Sometimes it used to be Laps
     
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    Also cars wear running balls out with everything they could think of allowed for the most part. Now cars are hp restricted by restrictor plates to keep them at those speeds.

    Just looked up what the record was speed was 210.364 average lap speed by Bill Elliot in 1987. Restrictor plates introduced in 88.
     
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    Three car lengths from first to second. Only 2 cars on the lead lap.

    For comparison, in 1969 and 1971, these are the numbers:

    1969

    Pole speed: 188.901 MPH
    Race average speed: 157.95 MPH
    Race time: 3:09:56
    Margin of victory: 1 car length
    Cars on lead lap: 2

    1971

    Pole speed: 182.744 MPH
    Race average speed 144.462 MPH
    Race time 3:27:40
    Margin of victory: 10 seconds (timed scoring for the first time)
    Cars on lead lap: 3

    Now let's look at the 2020 Daytona margin of victory and cars on the lead lap:

    Margin of victory: Race ended under caution
    Cars on lead lap: 17

    Now let's look at the 500 with the highest pole speed, 1987:

    Pole speed: 210.364 MPH
    Race average speed 176.263 MPH
    Race time 2:50:12
    Margin of victory: 3 car lengths
    Cars on lead lap: 11

    The highest average speed, 1980

    Pole speed: 194.009 MPH
    Race average speed 176.602 MPH
    Race time 2:48:52
    Margin of victory: under caution
    Cars on lead lap: 2

    Closest margin of victory, 2016

    Pole speed: 196.304 MPH
    Race average speed 157.549 MPH
    Race time 3:10:25
    Margin of victory: .010 second
    Cars on lead lap: 31 (also the most cars on the lead lap)

    Biggest margin of victory, 1973

    Pole speed: 185.662 MPH
    Race average speed 157.205 MPH
    Race time 3:10:50
    Margin of victory: 2 laps
    Cars on lead lap: 1

    Closest pole speed compared to race average speed (only caution free Daytona 500), 1959

    Pole speed: 140.121 MPH
    Race average speed 135.521 MPH
    Race time 3:41:22
    Margin of victory: 2 feet
    Cars on lead lap: 2

    I spent the time researching this to show how much has changed in 50 or so years in NASCAR. Back in the day, very few cars on the lead lap and usually a much larger margin of victory (not always - see 1959).

    Qualifying speeds have little correlation to average race speeds. The number of cautions dictates average race speeds.
     
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    Statistics, statistics...When were the best looking cars? 1970 ;););)
     
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    No way in hell....

    1962 - one of the best looking cars ever:

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    1962 Pontiac Super Duty, driven by Fireball Roberts. Pontiac won 22 races that year and won the manufacturers championship for NASCAR.... (GM started a racing ban in 1963...)
     
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    Yes way in hell! Incidentally, the winner of the 1970 Daytona 500 was Pete Hamilton. We had 3 tracks here in upstate NY (both dirt and paved) and he would race at one. No one ever imagined a guy who raced the 1/2 mile dirt track would win at Daytona.



    petty.jpg
     
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    I have a bunch of NASCAR racing on vhs tapes. My wife is bummed out that racing has stopped. I just got a free DVD/VHS recorder that I fixed last night and it works perfect. Thought i would hook it up for her so she could watch racing with real cars and the best drivers of all time because we have the stuck in the house order.
     
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    To me this looks much better. 73_Chevy-Chevelle-num12-DV-10-MH-09.jpg
     

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