With all the negative Windows 10 gets I'm pretty impressed

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  1. Gary S

    Gary S Administrator Lifetime Gold Member

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    Micsosoft has recently given good reasons to not automatically update Windows. Back in October, they put out their monthly update that killed thousands if not millions of Win 10 installations. Then, in response to the bad update, they issued a new one a couple of days later and it wiped out many more computers. Two really bad updates in one month are reason enough to wait and see if the update even has a decent chance of working.

    Remember the old saying, "If it isn't broke, don't fix it." All too often, the updates will break something that was working.
     
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    COPO Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    I will switch from 7 to 10 once 7 is no longer supported. By then all the bugs s/b gone. LOL.
     
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    CDesperado Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    Microsoft ended mainstream support for Windows 7 on January 13, 2015, but extended support won't end until January 14, 2020.

    All of my machines were running Win7 until about 18 months ago, when I slowly started moving to Win10. (Only a laptop and my media server still use Win7 now.)

    I really like Windows 10 - and I didnt expect to like it at all. However, I dont like the "Auto-update" thing, at all. Unfortunately, this was a business move on their part, probably because with previous OS's, a significant number of people weren't patching their machines at all.
     
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    CorkyE Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    I'm still with Win 7 on the desktop, have 10 on wife's and my laptop. Nothing wrong with Win 10. I started with computers using MS-DOS so I still use a lot of keyboard shortcuts. Son is IT in the Navy, they don't know what a keyboard shortcut is.
     
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    I'm just basing my posts off of what my end users complain about the most and what i see the most in regards to the OS. Its a great OS. They just need to allow their customers to use it how they feel best.
    MS is trying really hard to be more Apple-like, and they shouldn't. Apple is in decline and MS was never good at copying things Apple does. This entire hands-off attitude towards the OS is not the way to go forward.
    Like other's have said, you can't really rely on the manufacturer to leave things well enough alone, and they leave Zero Day exploits un-patched for years and sometimes decades. IMO MS should just sftu about end users self patching or the lack thereof and concentrate and creating a better product out the box that requires less patching in the first place.
    They need to go slow, stop often, test things, test them again, then pre-release, revise, then public release, for their patch cycle. Instead its rush things out, let the public test, rush out a fix patch, then at the same time write next months patch release, which is equally if not more rushed depending on how bad the first patch was lol.
     
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    CDesperado Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    Dude... you nailed it, right there. It's my biggest frustration with Microsoft.

    I will admit, my company is very MS-centric and always will be. But I absolutely hate the way they will issue a patch, then wait for it to break on the consumer side, then fix it. And I cant even tell you how many times I have had a Windows Update lockup during the MIDDLE of the update process. It can be incredibly frustrating and stressful to back out of specific updates, hoping that it doesnt make the problem even worse.
     
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    ^^wow, even more reason to stay away from Win 10.^^ Maybe all the software groups are in 3rd world Countries and getting under paid causes them to not give a rats ass. Not good for a Company that's well established and then go down the tubes.
     
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    CDesperado Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    Honestly, this is just venting a little bit... I actually like Windows10 quite a bit. Especially when paired with an SSD for the C drive.... it's damn fast and responsive. And this is the "final" Windows platform for the foreseeable future. The company's long-term plan is entirely based on the Win10 architecture. Linux is fine, if you want to spend a lot of time fiddling with things. If you want an OS that just works... Win10 is pretty damn good.

    In 9 months (Jan 2020), there will be no more security patches for Win7.
     
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    COPO Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    2020 is when I'll move to Win 10 and not before.
     
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    We have had Windows 10 at work for quite awhile now and I bought a new gaming PC last year that came with Win 10 as well. Overall they have both been pretty good. - I gave up on trying to figure out how to stop automatic updates as no matter what I did, they always come thru. One thing I have learned on both work and home machines, is you can't always tell when they are doing the updates, but if your working away and your computer seems to be running at a crawl, that's usually a good sign Windows is doing something in the background. - I have learned that when mine does this, it's time to just throw in the towel for 30 minutes and let Windows do it's thing. - Best I've found is just to close everything down and then go to reboot, This will then pop up a message saying "Windows needs to Update and restart". - I just let it do it's thing and come back a bit later and everything is good again.

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