Aftermarket Power Windows

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  1. junkyardZ28find

    junkyardZ28find Veteran Member

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    I've got a kit ready to go here-this is for later model window motor conversions and auto down-both windows. PM if interested.
     

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    PM Sent
     
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    PM replied!
     
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    Just following up on the auto down/up windows...how are holding up? Any issues?
     
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    On March 1, I sent Jabin Wood, aka junkyardZ28find, aka HarnessWorx, aka numerous other usernames on numerous other sites, $189 for a harness kit. I didn't hear from him for a month. On April 1, I checked in with him to see if he was going to be able to deliver given the virus crisis. He assured me that my harness would ship very soon. After two weeks, I pinged him again. In the back and forth since then, he has repeatedly promised past or - when that proved incorrect - imminent shipment, and even gave me FedEx tracking, but that turned out to be for a shipment to another state - not to me. I've raised this with PayPal. Meanwhile my project is stalled, and I'm going to have to build the harness myself. I've asked him for my money back.
     
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    I received the harness.

    There are no instructions or even a schematic, though the wires are labelled. The wire sizes and insulation thickness are inconsistent and the harness is taped with what seems to me to be black duct tape.

    Jabin represented that his harness "plugs right in" to my NuRelics motors, but the door/motor wiring is not terminated and no plugs were provided.

    The door boots are ridiculously huge - ID is close to 2" - and only mount with screws via a flange on the boot. Installing them would be challenging, at best.

    The harness includes 4 GM modules that are each about 4 times the size of a normal relay. There is no ground going to them, so they cannot serve as the relays needed to avoid power going through the control switches. They are stamped with a GM part number, and my research indicates that they solely provide the "automatic" functionality. The harness' sole ground (outside of an ignition relay, which I do not need as I have a dedicated circuit on my AAW fuse box) is connected only to the switches. So power must go through the switches for the harness to work.

    I initially contacted Jabin because I wanted to use some modern switches I have, which require relay control, and relay control is just the better way to go. I identified to Jabin the switches, and I even sent him a schematic for them. Jabin talked me into the automatic "upgrade." But what I received provides only the automatic functionality, so it is useless to me.

    I raised several of these issues with Jabin, but he has not responded to my emails. I am proceeding with building my own relay control harness. I no longer care about automatic functionality, and seriously doubt I have room for those huge modules anyway.
     
  7. dave@ztech

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    Well that sucks, I will be skipping my order , that I was considering, can you post some pictures?
    I would like the auto up , with the sensor that sends it down, if your arm is in the window, and the auto down feature,
     
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    Express Up-Down Relay Harness.jpg Switch Harness and Connectors.jpg
    I went through the same story almost verbatim. Mine was ordered last October and after making a claim with PayPal I received the harness just before the case was to be settled. Numerous attempts to contact went unanswered. I am planning to use switches in the console, so I think I can hide those ridiculously large relays under the dash before running the harness to the switch. It did come with a new plastic console switch and the connectors to crimp for my NuRelic window regulators. The wires were wrapped in black harness vinyl tape. I could have built a better harness and used a smaller express up/down relay control that would have been more compact.

    I wasn't going to raise an issue with this until reading this today. He had so many members here saying what a great product it was and how quick they received the harness. I refused to give feedback on how well it works or doesn't.

    If you are planning to do business with him just beware of his claims and lack of communication.
     
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    8pack Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    Any interest in building multiple set ups to sell that are done “right”?
     
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    Not looking to get into the harness business, no, sorry. Note that the harness wasn't inherently wrong, it just wasn't what I ordered or expected to receive. Pics elsewhere in this thread show the same setup with the 4 relays that I had expected to receive.

    To close this out, I tried one more time, and Jabin agreed to accept a return and refunded my money.
     
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