Anyone know a Honda Tech?

The biggest mistake people are making coming up with these off the cuff suggestions is that the key and fob programing is in the KAM memory dependent on voltage to retain it. In my experience this is not the case. The key and fob information, TMPS sensors, etc are all stored in re-writable memory (for lack of a better term) and no mater how long the battery was disconnected it would all still be there undisturbed.

As a flat rate mechanic you need to quickly diagnose the issue or put your family on welfare so I tend to make large passes at diagnostics to eliminate as much as I can quickly. With my limited knowledge of the Honda my first order of business would have been to erase all keys and fobs and reprogram them. My gut says something glitched. It's not a "random" issue the OP has expressed a very specific pattern of failure.

I don't want to pretend I know what the OP has done when he goes to the dealer but my experience is that when this weird stuff happens and can't be found it's due to lack of patience from the customer or the mechanics. The mechanics are not interested in losing their ass and spending hours of unpaid time looking for it and the customer needs his car or is overly concerned with the cost and is trying to micromanage the repair. This is a case where dealer management staff needs to step in and figure out how they are going to compensate the mechanic and not charge the customer out the wazoo. Not a lot of dealers are willing to do this.

But then again, it's been widely propagandized on this site that Hondas are built by God himself and never have issues so we may be looking at the unicorn of all Hondas to actually have an problem.

 

Now you're just being surly. How much time should be wasted with silly black magic voodoo fixes and off the wall guesses? If someone proposes a completely ridiculous suggestion should I just keep my mouth shut and let the OP waste time and money to save someone's feelings? I think the OP would argue he is on the clock and needs the issue resolved. The reality here is from what I've read in this thread most posters do not have a clue on how the system works because most of the suggestions are comical or anecdotal. Best of intentions I'm sure but they don't help the OP fix his problem, they just waste his time chasing his tail. Unless the OP has access to the Honda scan tool I don't think there is much he can do without the dealer. It's the reality of modern cars., especially the imports.

If you want to continue to frame me as a guy that that doesn't want to help that's your call. But just because you disagree with me doesn't make me wrong.

Any just FYI, you have zero clue what it's like to be on flat rate regardless of your manufacturing demands. At the end of the day you get paid for your time, your family will get fed. A flat rate guy can go home with zero wages for his effort. I'm sure having a bunch of high dollar big wigs being "excited" might be unpleasant but it pales in comparison to the stress a tech has for not being able to pay his bills and feed his family because he wasted the day changing fuses and and such because the guy in charge read it was the fix on the internet somewhere.

 

Jeez, Dave..... I thought you had the magic box that you plug in and it tells you what is wrong.

The guys at Vato Zone could have fixed it by now......