AWD vs. FWD?

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  1. kenny77

    kenny77 Veteran Member Lifetime Gold Member

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    ^^^^^^This.
     
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    I'll echo - on something like that AWD's only benefit comes from foul weather.
    You'll get worst gas mileage with AWD due to mechanical losses and dragging the extra weight around.

    That said, I got caught in a snowstorm in New Jersey a couple of years ago, the only reason I got through was that I was driving an rental Audi A4 with AWD. Watched all sorts of other vehicles sliding off the road and getting stuck on hills. It also took me 4 hours to get from Basking Ridge to JFK...
     
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    The reason for the comparison was when shopping the AWD Camry's were the majority of most dealers 2021 stock. I found some area dealers that had some FWD cars in stock, going to look at today. This means the lucky dealers I visit will hate me before the day is over. I go to the dealers initially without my wife to hammer out the best deal, right before they are ready to throw me out. I will bring my wife back for the final nod as she knows the dance after 45 years and refuses to sit for the negotiations with me and the sales staff.
     
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    In general, would repairs on an AWD be more expensive than a FWD? Maybe a consideration.
     
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    When my '76 V8 Monza was my daily/only car (in the '80s) we had an ice/snow storm come in about noon (Atlanta) and the bosses didn't cut us loose until about 2:00. Took me hours to get home and I swear I didn't touch pavement once! Glad I had a full tank of gas (weight on the back tires helped, never let it go below a half tank). Clutch out at idle when I had to start after a stop, 215/60 R13 Gatorbacks on 7.5" wheels helped! Was going uphill around pickups with 4WD spinning all 4 tires and not moving. Took about 8 hours IIRC including a stop at my Aunt's house about half way for a bathroom break and a cup of coffee. Heat in the car maxed, wearing heavy coat and gloves and STILL freezing my nads off! Wasn't working the engine much. I doubt it even got up enough to open the 1drilled 80degree thermostat...
     
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    Doesn't matter if it's FWD or AWD or 8 wheel drive for that matter if the tires are junk for winter cond. When I worked ay Hyundai the general manager would put Blizzaks on all the Genesis cars. Those cars were a whole new animal in the snow after that. Tires in winter make the difference.
     
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    I've only had one AWD vehicle, my current 2008 TBSS, which has been my winter and summer car since I bought it in 2009. I love it. My parents had a FWD 1980 Skylark, and a 1987 Celebrity, both of which I drove from time to time, in all kinds of weather; I like my AWD TBSS much better. The FWD Skylark and Celebrity felt odd in a turn, in snow or rain - so much understeer. My TBSS feels much better to me.

    Sure, AWD is good in the snow, but I also find my TBSS feels much better to me in a summer rainstorm, than the Skylark and the Celebrity. It's fun to floor the TBSS on a rainy road and just have it hook up and go.

    The TBSS uses a Torsen differential to connect the front and rear axles. One thing I don't like about that is when I spun the splines on the front right axle, the truck wouldn't move. It was trying to transfer all the torque to the axle that wasn't really connected anymore. I don't know if other AWD systems are like that. On the other hand, sheared front axle splines are a known problem on TBSSs, maybe just particular to them.
     
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    I'll note here, if you're considering the Toyota Camry, you should really take a peek at the Mazda 6 they are direct competitors with all of their dimensions being within .1" of each other. Mazda has done some really outstanding stuff in the last few years. I haven't gotten to drive the new Turbo engine yet, but it's supposed to be pretty sparky

    I need to get a new car for my wife in a couple of months and am 90% sure we're going with a CX5
     
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    To add on this, if you're getting a used car, and care about android auto/apple car play, some toyatas don't have it depending on the year you're looking at so keep your eyes on that (if you're getting brand new all Camrys have it)
     

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