crush sleeve vs. solid spacer

henry1088

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Jan 3, 2003
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And how would you know what size spacer to use? Because this is something I was thinking about doing. Torque specs and stuff like that as well please
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craggar

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Jul 28, 1999
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I don't know of anyone doing it with a 10 bolt but some diffs are that way.I thought the pinion nut was a lock nut?
 

Eric

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I'm sure it can be done- but would necessitate removing a crushed crush sleeve and measuring it's thickness to determine the proper solid spacer size- the point of the crush sleeve is to be able to adjust pinion depth at time of installation to get the gear mesh correct- so as long as you're using the same gears as when you took the crush sleeve out (intact) I don't see why this would be a problem.
 

big gear head

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Jul 30, 2001
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Ky.
This spacer has nothing to do with the pinion depth. The solid spacer is made a little thinner than needed and shims are added untill the proper preload is reached. The reason GM used crush spacers is because it makes assembly on the assembly line quicker. The 9" Ford Daytona pinion housing, early 8 3/4 Chrysler and most of the Dana rear ends use a solid spacer. The solid spacer is suppose to hold the pinion bearings in place better than a crush spacer because the pinion nut torque can be much greater. Once the pinion bearing preload is set with a solid spacer you can adjust the pinion depth without having to reset the bearing preload.

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'69 RS/SS396 Pro Street
427 4 speed 9"
Byars Performance
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third_edition

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Feb 7, 2004
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I'm in the process of rebuilding my 12 bolt posi now and I happened across a good article in the Feb 2004 issue of "CHEVY RUMBLE" (Buckaroo communications). They use a solid spacer from Ratech.
 

big gear head

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Jul 30, 2001
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The solid spacer is reusable. If you plan on taking the pinion out often then it would be the best thing to use. You should still torque the nut to about 250 foot pounds with the solid spacer.

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'69 RS/SS396 Pro Street
427 4 speed 9"
Byars Performance
High Performance Drive Train Parts And Service
www.lubedealer.com/biggearhead
 

Brian Callahan

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So, just to double check here: if we used a solid spacer instead of a crush sleeve, then we could completely disassemble the rear end and re-assemble it without taking any bearing preload or tooth wear pattern measurements? That is, assuming we put all the various shims back where we found them and used the same ring and pinion.

We have at least three separate projects we need to do that require disassembling the rear end. I don't want to spend $200 each time to have it re-set up.
 

big gear head

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Jul 30, 2001
6,443
Ky.
Yes, that is correct. If you change anything then you will have to go through the normal set up procedure, but if you put all of the same parts back in the original location then you will be fine.

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'69 RS/SS396 Pro Street
427 4 speed 9"
Byars Performance
High Performance Drive Train Parts And Service
www.lubedealer.com/biggearhead
 




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