Drone opinions

[sandlapper]

posterchild privacy violators include those very real estate agents as well as timber cruisers.
Have already gone a round w/ a local sophomore forest mgmt college kid working for dad's biz --- got his letter (with pics) telling me how he'd cruised my timber and asked to buy. Note: they never asked permission to cruise (as has been customary) and I never authorized. I investigated them and returned the favor by personally visiting their home during their sunday dinner; Uninvited.
drove home the message --- just because you can, don't mean ya should!

re: 12 ga --- when wally world got out of the "tactical" firearms market a few years back --- I stumbled upon a stupid cheap deal on a Rem 887 nitro TAC ---LOOONG tube --- got it specifically for said snoopers.

OTOH, I'm good w/ the low, fast movers from nearby AFB and good w/ our local cropduster, very good --- it's the ahole self-important snoopers who act without consideration that assault-trample me on MY private rural preserve.

No, I don't much like license tag readers, streetside CCTV etc --- but that's in public and I have no real expectation of privacy while in public --- but I sure as heck do when I'm on my place! Also, any of us can effectively disable our phones' tracking (ask a 12-year-old).

 

[biker]

posterchild privacy violators include those very real estate agents as well as timber cruisers.
Have already gone a round w/ a local sophomore forest mgmt college kid working for dad's biz --- got his letter (with pics) telling me how he'd cruised my timber and asked to buy. Note: they never asked permission to cruise (as has been customary) and I never authorized. I investigated them and returned the favor by personally visiting their home during their sunday dinner; Uninvited.
drove home the message --- just because you can, don't mean ya should!

re: 12 ga --- when wally world got out of the "tactical" firearms market a few years back --- I stumbled upon a stupid cheap deal on a Rem 887 nitro TAC ---LOOONG tube --- got it specifically for said snoopers.

OTOH, I'm good w/ the low, fast movers from nearby AFB and good w/ our local cropduster, very good --- it's the ahole self-important snoopers who act without consideration that assault-trample me on MY private rural preserve.

No, I don't much like license tag readers, streetside CCTV etc --- but that's in public and I have no real expectation of privacy while in public --- but I sure as heck do when I'm on my place! Also, any of us can effectively disable our phones' tracking (ask a 12-year-old).

Well said. It all comes down to intent/reasonableness/courtesy/respect, as most all human interactions do.

 

[danbrennan]

I ran into this article about a Wyoming drone law being debated, I thought it was interesting,

Wyoming Drone Pilot Says Angry Resident Threatened To Turn Dogs On Him | Cowboy State Daily

One commercial drone pilot who testified against an intrusive drone bill on Friday said an angry Green River citizen told him his drone was "pissing her dogs off" and she warned him to land the drone or she would turn the dogs loose on him.

cowboystatedaily.com

"Crago suggested amendments to the bill, including one exempting legitimate “government and commercial” use of drones. The committee rejected the amendments."


"Dave Adsit of Gillette, a certified drone pilot and retired police investigator, said that prosecuting any alleged drone trespassing charges would be extremely difficult and time-consuming. "

"It would most likely involve a complete forensic electronic investigation of computer memory cards taken from a drone, as well as an operator’s computer hard drive, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the pilot had intentionally trespassed or tried spying on somebody, he said. "


"Vic Moss of Denver, an FAA safety team expert volunteer for Wyoming and Colorado, said blasting away at a done could start a rain of fire. "

""Shooting a drone would probably put somebody afoul of Federal Aviation Administration rules against attacking aircraft, Gleason said.""

"“Not only is it illegal, as mentioned, it’s a horrible idea,” he said. “Our drones are powered by lithium polymer batteries, ‘LiPo’ batteries. If you fracture a LiPo battery, you’re pretty much going to have an instantaneous, self-fueling fire.”"

 

[biker]

I ran into this article about a Wyoming drone law being debated, I thought it was interesting,

Wyoming Drone Pilot Says Angry Resident Threatened To Turn Dogs On Him | Cowboy State Daily

One commercial drone pilot who testified against an intrusive drone bill on Friday said an angry Green River citizen told him his drone was "pissing her dogs off" and she warned him to land the drone or she would turn the dogs loose on him.

cowboystatedaily.com

"Crago suggested amendments to the bill, including one exempting legitimate “government and commercial” use of drones. The committee rejected the amendments."


"Dave Adsit of Gillette, a certified drone pilot and retired police investigator, said that prosecuting any alleged drone trespassing charges would be extremely difficult and time-consuming. "

"It would most likely involve a complete forensic electronic investigation of computer memory cards taken from a drone, as well as an operator’s computer hard drive, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the pilot had intentionally trespassed or tried spying on somebody, he said. "


"Vic Moss of Denver, an FAA safety team expert volunteer for Wyoming and Colorado, said blasting away at a done could start a rain of fire. "

""Shooting a drone would probably put somebody afoul of Federal Aviation Administration rules against attacking aircraft, Gleason said.""

"“Not only is it illegal, as mentioned, it’s a horrible idea,” he said. “Our drones are powered by lithium polymer batteries, ‘LiPo’ batteries. If you fracture a LiPo battery, you’re pretty much going to have an instantaneous, self-fueling fire.”"

Mem card and other such electronic evidence would be ideal for prosecution, but not entirely necessary in today's high tech world. It would mean specific "absolute liability" trespass style laws tailored for drone offenses, but it could be done.
As for blasting a drone..., point taken, but it would feel good. Last thing I need to do is start a forest fire at my secluded place.
Again though, tech to the rescue. I'm sure someone makes a short range signal jammer that could take one down or hold it still til the battery poops out.

 

[sandlapper]

Perhaps the shattered and fiery drone's entrails will identify its owner --- perhaps that owner would prove liable for any damages to the offended landowner (burned timber, structures etc).
Geez, I thought it was a white-winged goose --- and then, poof --- it exploded!
Self-important hardhead's drone burned thru 8 acres of harvest-ready timber.

Hmmm --- maybe enlist paying hunters --- not unlike a dove hunt --- if popular, give it a classy moniker --- Kyle Rittenhouse annual invitational!

Also, I've noted how many larger, formerly agricultural fields have / are recently repurposed as solar array installations. Lotsa fodder there for drone-damage & litigation!

 

[biker]

Perhaps the shattered and fiery drone's entrails will identify its owner --- perhaps that owner would prove liable for any damages to the offended landowner (burned timber, structures etc).
Geez, I thought it was a white-winged goose --- and then, poof --- it exploded!
Self-important hardhead's drone burned thru 8 acres of harvest-ready timber.

Hmmm --- maybe enlist paying hunters --- not unlike a dove hunt --- if popular, give it a classy moniker --- Kyle Rittenhouse annual invitational!

Also, I've noted how many larger, formerly agricultural fields have / are recently repurposed as solar array installations. Lotsa fodder there for drone-damage & litigation!

A drone cull!!

 

[sandlapper]

A drone cull!!

Brilliant!

 

[Patstuff28]

Hey Biker, I recently saw some pictures taken from a DJI Mini Pro 3 drone. They were pretty impressive. Personally, all I have ever flown was a Galla kite.

Amazon.ca : drone dji mini 3

 

[biker]

Thanks man! Ya, my experience stops with paper airplanes. Ok, i will have a look at that. I have to resist the urge to buy something huge that i dont need.

 

[danbrennan]

But one also doesn't want to buy something and later realize it's too small for what one needs. Best to be on the safe side, and go overboard