Electric Car Road Tax

danbrennan

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"securely transmitted to a third-party vendor for billing under strict privacy protections" doesn't exactly calm my paranoia, though. It seems like any company gets its customer database compromised, sooner or later. I would probably opt for the "all you can drive" option.


"A common concern about mileage-based user fees is privacy. Many people are uncomfortable with the idea of disclosing to the government how much and where they drive. But there are ways to manage these concerns. Mileage-based user fee programs should allow drivers to choose which method of assessing their fees they feel most comfortable with, as they have been doing in pilot projects in about a dozen states."


"One option would be to simply report annual odometer readings at the time of vehicle registration renewal. Another could be an “all you can drive” option, which would have users pay a higher than average fee in exchange for keeping their actual mileage private. Drivers desiring the most accurate assessment of their driving fees could install a unit in their vehicle that records miles driven or use GPS to log which roads they used. Even with these options, the government need not possess this data: It could be securely transmitted to a third-party vendor for billing under strict privacy protections. This has proved popular in pilot projects conducted in other states. "


"A critical element of using mileage-based user fees is that they would replace the gas tax, and not simply be assessed on top of gas taxes. That’s why in our report, “How to Replace Michigan’s Gas Tax with Mileage-Based User Fees,” we recommend the state reimburse or credit drivers for gas taxes they might still pay when driving on a highway that has been converted to mileage-based user fees."
 

Da-bigguy

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ULTM8Z

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During a Flex Alert, consumers are urged to reduce energy use from 4-9 p.m. when the
system is most stressed because demand for electricity remains high and there is less
solar energy available. The top three conservation actions are to set thermostats to 78
degrees or higher, avoid using large appliances and charging electric vehicles, and turn

off unnecessary lights

So let me get this straight...

The highest taxed state in the nation has tell it's highest-taxed populace in the nation to use less energy because they've (purposefully) mismanaged the energy grid? WTF are we getting for our tax money?

"Not enough solar energy available".

On top of that, let's convert everyone over to electric cars in ~10 years, increase demand on the grid by ~50% or more, with no plan to increase grid capacity (and actually shutting off capacity with closing down nuclear plants). When we're already telling people to not charge their electric cars during certain hours of the day because we can't supply enough energy.

There's no doubt this is 100% about curtailing freedom by politicians with communist fetishes. Gas powered cars represent a freedom of mobility they despise. Getting everyone's personal mobility (except their own of course) dependent on an electric grid essentially controlled by the government is the goal.

They figure there are enough low information voters to buy into the climate change bullsh!t that they can "boil the frog" slowly enough with high gas prices and meaningless rhetoric about saving the planet. Then everyone figures out the ruse, it'll be too late.

People are screaming from the sidelines to stop with this holy war against fossil fuels with all this in-your-face evidence that its going to be disaster. Even Elon Musk is telling them to slow down.
 

Knuckle Dragger

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So let me get this straight...

The highest taxed state in the nation has tell it's highest-taxed populace in the nation to use less energy because they've (purposefully) mismanaged the energy grid? WTF are we getting for our tax money?

"Not enough solar energy available".

On top of that, let's convert everyone over to electric cars in ~10 years, increase demand on the grid by ~50% or more, with no plan to increase grid capacity (and actually shutting off capacity with closing down nuclear plants). When we're already telling people to not charge their electric cars during certain hours of the day because we can't supply enough energy.

There's no doubt this is 100% about curtailing freedom by politicians with communist fetishes. Gas powered cars represent a freedom of mobility they despise. Getting everyone's personal mobility (except their own of course) dependent on an electric grid essentially controlled by the government is the goal.

They figure there are enough low information voters to buy into the climate change bullsh!t that they can "boil the frog" slowly enough with high gas prices and meaningless rhetoric about saving the planet. Then everyone figures out the ruse, it'll be too late.

People are screaming from the sidelines to stop with this holy war against fossil fuels with all this in-your-face evidence that its going to be disaster. Even Elon Musk is telling them to slow down.


Breathe man, breathe LOL Funny how the behind the door stuff is starting to come out.....
 

ULTM8Z

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Breathe man, breathe LOL Funny how the behind the door stuff is starting to come out.....

I just hope enough people start to connect the dots before its too late.

Lol... the average Californian...

"State that tells me to shut my lights off due to lack of energy wants me to plug an electric car in to use more energy. Hmmm... something doesn't sound right, but I can't put my finger on it"

Probably a false hope, but who knows...
 

tom3

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ohio
And have the whole state of California plug in all that mandated lawn equipment at 6 pm after a day's mowing.
 




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