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[biker]

I really dont understand why anyone would buy a ford....
Of every single one I know... problems beyond problems. A buddy I work with has a 2018 super duty with a huge rain leakage problem from the back where the pressure vents are...
His son has a ford ranger with the 4.0 v6 that has timing chains in the rear next the bell housing.. he needs them replaced.(this is why I don't trust the 3.0 duramax).

My grandmother had her share of crap fords. Fix or repair daily couldn't be more accurate. My boss had an old f250 v10 that loved to go through exhaust gaskets and then exhaust studs that were rusted away.
They make some nice looking vehicles.. but definitely only a keep within the warranty period type of thing.

I thought similarly to you at one time. My grandfather was a long time GM salesman, I apprenticed and worked in a GM garage and only ever owned GMs except for a 74 Ford pickup that was as reliable as a hammer.

Fast forward 20 years, and when Ford did a re-vamp on the Crown Vic police car, I fell in love. They handled, went pretty good (certainly not as good as the LT1 Caprice of the time), and were a solid, reliable cop car. When we started using Tahoes, I fell in love all over again.

When it came time for a new(ish) work vehicle for my new job, I test drove a bunch, read lots, spoke to tech friends and bought a used 2019 Ford Edge. I've put 45,000 kms (82,000 + on it now) on it so far, did 5 oil changes. It doesn't use a drop of oil, goes good, its comfy and good on fuel. All the Titanium level gadgets are awesome, including the booming sound system.

I'm gonna keep an open mind and see how long it lasts. My loose plan is to keep an eye out for a good used (or maybe new) Caddy CTS, or whatever they call that class of Caddy now.

Until then, we will see how the Ford experiment goes.

 

[biker]

I've come to understand the final iteration of the classic sbc (iron head Vortec 5.0L / 305ci rpo L30 and 5.7L / 350ci rpo L31) are "officially" known as Gen Ie

and, that L31 5.7L Vortec Gen Ie remains in production as a new "replacement engine" via GM Powertrain.

fwiw, probably best cars I've had are a series of latest iteration of Lincoln Town Car with 4.6L sohc V8 "modular motor" --- Sadly, just this AM I surrendered a '99 LTC due to bad roadbed, torrential rains and hydroplaning --- totalled. Had just changed its O&F less than 100 miles ago and replaced battery in November 22. Large, Heavy, Solid car probably prevented more serious injury or my early demise. Great cars --- I'll be looking on CL for another --- final year for LTC is 2011.

LOVE that gen of LTC. Hope u are feeling ok and find another one.

 

[76z28]

I thought similarly to you at one time. My grandfather was a long time GM salesman, I apprenticed and worked in a GM garage and only ever owned GMs except for a 74 Ford pickup that was as reliable as a hammer.

Fast forward 20 years, and when Ford did a re-vamp on the Crown Vic police car, I fell in love. They handled, went pretty good (certainly not as good as the LT1 Caprice of the time), and were a solid, reliable cop car. When we started using Tahoes, I fell in love all over again.

When it came time for a new(ish) work vehicle for my new job, I test drove a bunch, read lots, spoke to tech friends and bought a used 2019 Ford Edge. I've put 45,000 kms (82,000 + on it now) on it so far, did 5 oil changes. It doesn't use a drop of oil, goes good, its comfy and good on fuel. All the Titanium level gadgets are awesome, including the booming sound system.

I'm gonna keep an open mind and see how long it lasts. My loose plan is to keep an eye out for a good used (or maybe new) Caddy CTS, or whatever they call that class of Caddy now.

Until then, we will see how the Ford experiment goes.

Honestly anymore, all the domestic vehicles are the same. I wouldn't own any of them(as much as I like the ford and GM trucks). I just see too many having issues.

 

[sandlapper]

LOVE that gen of LTC. Hope u are feeling ok and find another one.

Thank you, sir. Nothing so serious physically; but daily "new found" injuries are apparent. Must be blessed because it could have easily been so much worse. Old body perseveres. Got a short term rental; '23 Hyundai Tuscon small suv and all its bells & whistles are a hoot. Tiny motor but superfast throttle tip-in from idle is alarming. Even has that dreaded start-stop engine feature. Yup, looking not only for a late LTC but also low-mile Suburban or Yukon XL with L31-R. Even considering later AWD Astro/Safari van w/ LU5 4.3L V6 AWD (L35/LU5 essentially an L31 w/ front pair of cylinders hacked off).

 

[Rustbucket350]

I really dont understand why anyone would buy a ford....
Of every single one I know... problems beyond problems. A buddy I work with has a 2018 super duty with a huge rain leakage problem from the back where the pressure vents are...
His son has a ford ranger with the 4.0 v6 that has timing chains in the rear next the bell housing.. he needs them replaced.(this is why I don't trust the 3.0 duramax).

My grandmother had her share of crap fords. Fix or repair daily couldn't be more accurate. My boss had an old f250 v10 that loved to go through exhaust gaskets and then exhaust studs that were rusted away.
They make some nice looking vehicles.. but definitely only a keep within the warranty period type of thing.

That's the exact reason I did the OHV 4.0 for my Bronco II instead of the OHC. I wanted the extra power but the way they retrofitted the timing chain on the back, plus having 3 or 4 timing chains just seemed like a problem waiting to happen. Then there's the issue of the slack eating into the block and additional sensors which are definitely going to fail on a Ford lol. I figured "No way this thing is going to be maintenance free".