Help with identifying a -71 camaro

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  1. Alfanatiker

    Alfanatiker New Member

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    Hello people.

    One week ago I bought myself a 1971 Camaro that according to the registration card is supposed to be a SS.
    Now it's a -73 truck engine in it, and a 4 speed M20 and a locking rear axle.
    How can I find out if it's an original SS and what other kind of options it was supposed to have from the factory. Like if it's an original 4 speed etc.

    The VIN number on the car is 124871L516275 and it came to Norway from the US in 2008 or 2009 as far as I know.


    -Ronny
     
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    Gary S Administrator Lifetime Gold Member

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    Start by checking to see if it has all the items included in the SS package listed here.
    http://www.nastyz28.com/camaro/camaro71.html#71-z27

    You can also check the partial VIN on the tranny to see if it matches the car. An SS car with 4 speed should have a 3.42 axle and if it is a posi, it would be coded CJ.
    The tranny will be Muncie, and since Muncies were used only on SS and Z28, a matching number Muncie says a lot. A Z28 would have either a 3.73 or 4.10 axle, so a 3.42 axle with the correct code and a numbers matching Muncie nail it down as an SS.
     
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    I haven't seen any number on the tranny yet, but I´ve taken a couple of pictures of the muncie. As far as i can see, it looks like its a M20. It´s dual exhaust, but not power brakes (but ventilate discs in the front). The mirror is a sport mirror, and supposed to be remote controlled, but the hole in the door panel is missing.

    The car is obviously not original anymore, and has a Cowl induction hood (as far as i know). It has a long first gear, short 2th and 3rd, and the 4th is very long again. I dont have a tach, so i dont know about the rpm, yet..

    Pictures from the muncie

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    A short video from when i picked it up last week.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN-9aXVu00s
     
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    Gary S Administrator Lifetime Gold Member

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    The tranny numbers P0A05A and 70S400662 identify the tranny.

    P=Muncie
    0=1970
    A=January
    05=5th day of month
    A=M20

    This says it is a 1970 transmission, not a 1971

    70S400662

    This is the partial VIN of the original car.
    7=strange number to me. It should be 1 if from a Chevy passenger car
    0=1970
    S=St Louis, MO assembly plant. (St Louis built passenger car and Corvettes in 1970)
    400662=VIN sequence number (full size cars started with 100,001 and Corvette started with 400,001. This number is likely a Corvette number as the Corvette got a late production start in 1970, and this would have been the 662nd car produced.

    So, the tranny isn't original to this car.

    Also, your description of gearing indicates to me that the car doesn't have a 3.42 rear gear, but instead something higher like 2.73 or 3.08. With 3.42, gears 1,2,3 should be about equal, not a long first gear.
     
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    In 71, does the trim tag show anything?
     
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    norwood yes , LA no . gm was still building camaros at th LA plant in 71 . production of the camaro in LA started back up in 75 i believe .
     
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    A 'SS' car would also have hidden windshield wipers and power brakes... In post #3 you mentioned it does not have power brakes.
     
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    How are the hidden wipers supposed to look?

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    Brake servo could have been changed out. In one way I think it´s strange if its a SS, but in another way it could not be registrated as an SS in Norway if the US papers did not say the same when the car was imported.


    I checked a bit more on the gear changes today. Normally I change from 1st to 2nd in about 40 mph and from 2nd to 3rd in 55 mph 3rd to 4th in maybe 70 mph.
     
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    My 71 SS has Z27 on the trim tag, which means its an SS
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