Hi-Point .45/Escort AimGuard 12-Ga??

[SFViper19D]

It's a Hi-Point in .40 cal S&W or a .45ACP

HI-PT 45ACP POLY 4.5" 9RD
MSRP: $199.00
Price: $154.39

HI-PT 40S&W POLY 4.5" 10RD
MSRP: $199.00
Price: $154.39

Again. This would be strictly for home defense. For a EDC I would opt for something else.
The reason I brought up the .45 Hi-Point and the Aimpoint 12 GA shotgun is because they are brand new. Any confrontation would likely be just close quarters. Longer range accuracy isn't so much a requirement. Knock down power, if the wife has to use it, is.
There are a few gun stores I want to look into for used weapons.
Considering a CCW and I like the M&P or a Glock for that.

Let me ask you a question.

While you are attending your wife's funeral ( who may have died due to a home intrusion) can you picture yourself saying, "Yeah, but I got it on sale for $154.00!" ??

Firearms for home defense/ personal protection are not something you should be concerned about saving money on. As the old adage goes, "you get what you pay for."

 

[Jimmac]

If you buy a gun with a warranty and it keeps jamming why arent you sending it back to get fixed that what a warranty if for. Makes no sense to keeping it around if its not goi g to work reliably. I
I have a pre ban tec.22 that jams all the time but I bought it as a project gun so Ill put up with its issues until one day I either get it working or ill sell it to someone else that wants a project bit the rest of my guns work. Jim

 

[cali cruzer]

Let me ask you a question.

While you are attending your wife's funeral ( who may have died due to a home intrusion) can you picture yourself saying, "Yeah, but I got it on sale for $154.00!" ??

Firearms for home defense/ personal protection are not something you should be concerned about saving money on. As the old adage goes, "you get what you pay for."

Really??.Do you own one? Did more than read about it? Ever actually held one? Your first post and this is what you can offer. How about some actual hands on, real world experience with the weapons?

Actually money isn't the issue, so it isn't about saving money, and my neighborhood isn't bad. I am just looking for an affordable .45 Cal weapon that I don't need to spend hundreds of dollars on and maybe never use it.

As the old adage goes, "you get what you pay for." Not ALWAYS true
Got a 72 Nova for free..drove it for 2 years..Bad deal??...
Bought an SKS for $79....Probably just a peice of junk that ate every type of ammo I fed it

 

[CorkyE]

Really??.Do you own one? Did more than read about it? Ever actually held one? Your first post and this is what you can offer. How about some actual hands on, real world experience with the weapons?

Actually money isn't the issue, so it isn't about saving money, and my neighborhood isn't bad. I am just looking for an affordable .45 Cal weapon that I don't need to spend hundreds of dollars on and maybe never use it.

As the old adage goes, "you get what you pay for." Not ALWAYS true
Got a 72 Nova for free..drove it for 2 years..Bad deal??...
Bought an SKS for $79....Probably just a peice of junk that ate every type of ammo I fed it

Agree...

Now, if you're set on a .45 ACP, find a gun shop that sells to local LE agencies and resells their trade ins. This is how I bought two .45's that I've had, Glock and H&K. I also paid a lot more that $79 for my SKS.

Damn, I need to sell some of my stuff, but I doubt that will happen.

 

[GoldenOne7710]

Really??.Do you own one? Did more than read about it? Ever actually held one? Your first post and this is what you can offer. How about some actual hands on, real world experience with the weapons?

Actually money isn't the issue, so it isn't about saving money, and my neighborhood isn't bad. I am just looking for an affordable .45 Cal weapon that I don't need to spend hundreds of dollars on and maybe never use it.

As the old adage goes, "you get what you pay for." Not ALWAYS true
Got a 72 Nova for free..drove it for 2 years..Bad deal??...
Bought an SKS for $79....Probably just a peice of junk that ate every type of ammo I fed it

I wasn't going to jump on the Hi Point bash wagon because there's always a few who seem like they'd defend their reason for buying one to justify the purchase.

So here's my real world experience. Had a Hi Point .40 given to me. Said he didn't like it because it wouldn't eject spent cartridges half the time. He knew my family has a good bit of gunsmith knowledge...which has rubbed off on me as well. This pistol was only 3 months old and he had bought it for less than $200.

So I take it to shoot along with a couple other of my pistols. The other 2 pistols were my Sig SP2340 .40 and Springfield XDS .40. Sure enough the Hi Point would jam a out every 3 rounds using new manufactured ammo. The other 2 were eating the ammo like candy, so that ruled out the ammo as the culprit.

The actual issue I found to be wrong was that the gun wouldn't feed properly. So I tried another magazine...same issue. Filed the feed ramp some...same issue. So I dug a little deeper and took some measurements. The geometry of the feed ramp to chamber was not true. The shells were trying to feed at an angle.

Gave the pistol back to my buddy. NO WAY would I trust my safety or family's safety with one. This was my 1st and only experience with one, but I've read where other people have had the same issues with them. That alone is enough to say I wouldn't ever have another.

 

[theflash]

ROTFLMAO at all the Hi point owners that say they got them as a gift. I see only one person who admits buying one on this thread.

 

[Lowend]

A few notes:

I have shot a Highpoint (9mm) - the one I shot did cycle, but was inconsistent, and felt like crap. I could tell the chassis wasn't going to stay right for long. Kinda like holding a new cheap adjustable wrench, it works now, but you wouldn't depend on it for anything.

I reiterate: If a home defense gun comes out, it means someone (maybe you) is going to die. Even if the confrontation wasn't lethal before, you've now upped the ante to the other party.
The home defense gun is the single most important piece of machinery in your possession. It has to work every time, and there's no margin for error.
for new handguns in defense calibers (.380 or bigger), you aren't getting someone worth owning for less than $300

No one has brought up what is probably the most savage close range firearm made
the Taurus Judge

This nasty little snubnose is chambered for either .45 LC or .410 Shotgun shells. They are inaccurate at more than a few yards, and hurt to shoot (this is not a range gun). But inside a small room I don't think there is something I'd be more scared of someone else having.
They are actually illegal in California as they are classified as short barrel shotguns.

 

[cali cruzer]

So here's my real world experience. Had a Hi Point .40 given to me. Said he didn't like it be
So I take it to shoot along with a couple other of my pistols. The other 2 pistols were my Sig SP2340 .40 and Springfield XDS .40. Sure enough the Hi Point would jam a out every 3 rounds using new manufactured ammo. The other 2 were eating the ammo like candy, so that ruled out the ammo as the culprit.

The actual issue I found to be wrong was that the gun wouldn't feed properly. So I tried another magazine...same issue. Filed the feed ramp some...same issue. So I dug a little deeper and took some measurements. The geometry of the feed ramp to chamber was not true. The shells were trying to feed at an angel.

This kind of info I appreciate.
My question to this is.....Why didn't anyone try to warranty the gun? It is a lifetime warranty regardless of ownership?
My understanding is HP is very good with warranties.

And just for kicks...ANYONE who want to get rid of their HP in any caliber..feel free to contact me and I will take it off your hands

 

[indy camaro]

ROTFLMAO at all the Hi point owners that say they got them as a gift. I see only one person who admits buying one on this thread.

You know what's funny is I actually bought two and the other one was the 9 mm and I did give that one away to my brother lol !!

 

[JOHNNYMO]

My wife and I were just looking at adding a new weapon for her to carry. I saw the High Points and thought maybe they were a pellet gun... The pricing and them being down lower in the display case is what made me think that... So I asked the guy about it.... He took it out and showed me a few things on it, like the plastic adjustable sight, plastic grip and overall heaviness of yhe weapon. He advised against buying one at any cost really... He also said he pleaded with and advised his store manager to stop selling the brand because of what a piece of garbage it is. Spend 400 and get a better quality weapon if you want reliability when it counts.
just my .02