Just kill it already. NASCAR that is..

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  1. The Champ

    The Champ Veteran Member

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    They weren't stock back in the 50's, much less the 60's.

    When Kevin Harvick passed Truex with 1 lap to go on Saturday night, no one broke down or hit the wall. It was just good racing. Kyle Larson put on quite a show - starting at the back and finishing 4th. Kyle might have won - except for an incident that damaged his car when Ryan Blaney and he made contact with about 20 laps to go. Larson led 101 laps - more than anyone else.

    So much for the "no passing" theory.
     
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    Let them run unrestricted with no spoiler and no aero at Talledga and Daytona . would be awesome to see them running 220mph plus at those tracks !!!

    Also remove the safer barriers !!!!
     
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    They were cars that started out stock and were modified for racing. Hudson Hornets with Twin H power dominated in the early 50's. Some teams ran convertibles with a roll bar. Was the engine modified? Sure. Same with brakes, transmission, even the lug studs. You could order options from the factory to make racing more competitive. Triple carbureted Pontiac's weren't sold too much for the street. If it had a factory part number, it was stock. Get into the 60's and the hologation rules got stricter with wildly modified cars they sold for NASCAR. The 1969 Dodge Daytona and the 1970 Plymouth Superbird were built only to make them legal to race. Ford built the tapered nose Torino and GM was left sitting in the dust. That's when the stock started to go away. The 426 Hemi was outlawed along with the really competitive Ford engines. Now they all have the same basic engine.
     
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    They should remove the catch fence too ... watch till the end , it’s quite a finish ..
     
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    I don’t believe GM participated in NASCAR in 68-71 with corporate involvement. They reentered NASCAR when the “ modern era “ of Winston sponcership started with the Monte Carlo.
     
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    I wonder how different it would be if Earnhardt, Yunick, Petty, Alison, Yarlborough, Waltrip, Fireball, Junior Johnson, etc. were still around or racing.

    The new drivers are nice but man are they different ... they remind me more of actors with entourages, expensive sun glasses then roll up the sleeves mechanics.

    Do you think they would say hang the body on the race frame ... creating the Ford, Dodge, Toyota and Chevy engineers to build nicer cars.

    I think the engines are fine and transmissions are fine too (T56) but if they were more old school maybe it would be better.
     
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    With the recent retirement of in my opinion a bunch of the of the most well known and popular drivers in recent years (Earnhardt Jr., Gordon, Stewart, Kenseth, Edwards, Burton, Biffle, Martin, etc.), it has lost a lot of its' appeal for me. The new drivers just aren't the same. When you're left with the Busch brothers and a bunch of divas, no thanks. At least Harvick and Truex are holding their own, so I've heard...
     
  8. The Champ

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    How many driver's did you want to see get killed?
     
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    Pontiac never ran the tri power in NASCAR, as Fireball Roberts engine compartment shows:

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    What was the Ford chassis number used on the 1960's unibody Fairlanes? Holman Moody fabricators welded a full tube frame into the Fairlane unibody to make the car withstand the punishment of racing. Prior to the unibodies - it was common for NASCAR racers to use boxed frames instead of the factory frames.

    As to your last comment - other than the displacement being the same - that's like saying that a Buick 350, a Chevy 350, an Oldsmobile 350 and a Pontiac 350 were all the same....:roadkill::screwup::lush::dumper:
     
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    GM's ban on racing was a result of the federal government due to GM selling 53% of all vehicles sold in the United States in 1961 and 62. GM was concerned that if they continued to grow, the government would break them up - as they did to Standard Oil. So the corporate sponsorship of racing was curtailed for the 1963 season in hopes of reducing sales.
     

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