Lower front Valance Mystery +

[71 Z28/RS Project]

Q1 - So my guys are well into cutting and welding pieces into the 71 rs/z28 and we came across something I have no answer for, the lower front valiance has 2 small rivet type things built into the inside outer edges, they are tapped as if to accept something, any ideas ? I am the 3rd owner so what came before me I am not clear.

Q2 - I came across the terms Racing and Runway relating to stripes, does anyone have some clarification on this ?

 

[l16pilot]

For Q1, based on the photos, the inserts appear to be where the front lower spoiler attaches, but I do not believe those are factory and someone may have added them at some point over the past 52 years. There should be corresponding holes in the spoiler that matches up to these inserts.

For Q2, there was only one stripe format provided for the '71 Z28 which have been referred to by many different names, including Racing and Runway stripes.

Hope this helps.

 

[71 Z28/RS Project]

For Q1, based on the photos, the inserts appear to be where the front lower spoiler attaches, but I do not believe those are factory and someone may have added them at some point over the past 52 years. There should be corresponding holes in the spoiler that matches up to these inserts.

For Q2, there was only one stripe format provided for the '71 Z28 which have been referred to by many different names, including Racing and Runway stripes.

Hope this helps.

Thank You for the engagement

Q1 - yes I see your thinking, if I remember correctly when removing the 'broken" spoiler it was only attached along the bottom of the valiance and these little inserts seem to aliened to accept something from inside the engine compartment, when I get another spoiler I will have a better idea.

Q2 - I was under the assumption that the stripes of the 71 terminate at the bottom of the tall rear 3 piece spoiler and the 70 short one piece has the outside line turn and follow around the bottom of the stripe but after checking the car assembly instruction it seems early 71's may have shared the 70 strips. I don't know but since starting this project I am finding that these vehicles all seem to have some of their own uniqueness due to the time in history. I thought perhaps the 2 different stripe styles had different names as in Racing and Runway.

 

[unrestored72Z]

70 & 71 short spoilers had the same, rounded at the bottom spoiler stripes.
70 - 72 tall spoilers were all the same, no rounding and stripes ended at the bottom, like.on 69's.
Not til 73 did the tall spoiler stripes round at the bottom.
Biggest errors out there regarding stripes is 70 - 72 tall spoiler cars having rounded stripes, and 70 - 73 front stripes having inside pointed leading edges, like on Chevelles and El Caminos.

 

[71 Z28/RS Project]

Thanks, just for s-hits and giggles I'm "guessing" the short spoiler stripes were coined "Racing and tall Runway

 

[xten]

Isn't there a difference in where the stripes end at the rear of the hood and the rear window reveal between the Norwood and Van Nuys striped cars?

 

[BillyDean7173]

Biggest errors out there regarding stripes is 70 - 72 tall spoiler cars having rounded stripes, and 70 - 73 front stripes having inside pointed leading edges, like on Chevelles and El Caminos.

If you take a look at the 72 sales brochure, it looks like the tall rear spoiler stripes have the radiused (or rounded) corners. Whether that's right or wrong, I can't say. Sorta like the whole debate about the rear spoiler having Z28 emblems or decals (see the 70-73 assembly manuals). Lots of threads on this topic. Seems to be an agreement at least for the 73 having a decal. I used an emblem on mine because I'm not into stickers, lol.

1972 Camaro Sales Brochure - The Z28 Camaro

Nastyz28.com - 1972 Camaro Dealer Sales Brochure Z28 option

www.nastyz28.com

Completely agree on the front Chevelle stripes. My 71 has them from the PO. I laugh about it, but it will be fixed during resto. It was probably more common back in the day (like 1996 when I bought the car), but there's really no excuse for it nowadays with the internet and a site like Nasty. Of course, unless you like Chevelle stripes on a Camaro.

The biggest mistake I see on the 3-piece rear spoiler with the radiused corners are the stripes are too low. In other words, too close to the bottom edge of the center spoiler. That's because at one time at least, the stripes and stencil kit had the instructions for the short spoiler and people used those instructions on the tall spoiler instead of following the measurements in the assembly manual. If you start googling images, you'll see this issue quite a bit.

As a side note, here's a 70 Camaro on FB that has the Firebird rear spoiler ends on it. You would think they wouldn't look too bad on a Camaro, but in my opinion, they do. Perhaps because the Camaro spoiler ends are just ingrained in my brain. You'll also sometimes see the mid to later 2nd gen spoiler ends on the early Camaros. Additionally, on this car the stripes are too low and the solid stripe corners are at 90* when they should be radiused to follow the pin striping. Obviously a custom job. This car was on FB maybe a year ago in Central Texas and is now in East Texas for sale again with a higher price tag.

 

[BillyDean7173]

Isn't there a difference in where the stripes end at the rear of the hood and the rear window reveal between the Norwood and Van Nuys striped cars?

I think there was in the early production of the 70 between the two plants. There's some threads with pics on the site. Also some threads on here about stripes and non-rear spoiler cars. Pretty rare occurrence I guess to have a car where the stripes end prematurely. Kinda looks unfinished and like a mistake to me, but it was factory and changed at some point in time. Probably because dealers were bitching saying their customers won't buy the car. That's just a WAG on my part.

 

[ChevyReb]

Another item is the rear stripes are narrower at the tail lights than at the back glass. It's because the outside stripes to trunk/quarter maintain the same distance from the gap there all the way down the trunk That is a mistake I made when painting my car.

The ones on the example above this post look to be correct in post#7 and look to be even all the way gap to stripes. Hope that helps.

 

[BillyDean7173]

Thanks, just for s-hits and giggles I'm "guessing" the short spoiler stripes were coined "Racing and tall Runway

You could be right. The only name I've ever heard the stripes called are rally stripes. If you look at that 72 Z28 link I provided earlier, they are called rally stripes in the sales brochure. Also, some people call the Z28 rim a rally rim. To me, there's already a rim that is actually named "rally".