I'm thinking you forgot that Iraq invaded Kuwait. The citizens are always the one who suffer for their leaders mistakes. Always been that way always will. And since you insist we discuss it, without Clitoons limp wristed (non)response to the two embassy bombings and the attack on the USS Cole the 9-11 attack never happens. When you show people you won't respond to attack it emboldens them to step it up. Did anyone notice Gathafi and stopped his BS once his palace was bombed? Civilized folks often don't understand that you can only talk things out if both sides are willing to listen in good faith. If one side refuses to do that the idea everything can be worked out peacefully goes out the door. I will agree the Saudi's have never been held accountable for their role in the attack and various other destabilizing actions. But unlike a lot of other folks I'd rather we were feared for having the biggest stick and hardest swing then be patronized to our face for a small payment of 150 billion in cash while they plot our destruction behind the scenes. I appreciate your point of view and I understand where your coming from and respect that it's not an off the cuff view point. I just don't agree with it.