Possible ISIS attack in Canada - stuff just got real folks

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Muslim Terrorist Michael Zehaf-Bibeau

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So this appears to be a lone gunman/lunatic scenario thus far? Perhaps loosely coordinated with the loon from last week that ran over two soldiers?

RIP to the soldier. Big kudos to the Sergeant-at-Arms in Parliament.
 

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Todd80Z28 said:
So this appears to be a lone gunman/lunatic scenario thus far?

Prime Minister is calling it an act of Terrorism. Both this terrorist and the one 2 days ago had their passports recently suspended.

The killer had been on the radar of federal investigators, who feared he had jihadist ambitions and seized his passport when he tried to travel to Turkey
 
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MotionClone said:
Prime Minister is calling it an act of Terrorism. Both this terrorist and the one 2 days ago had their passports recently suspended.
Of course they are calling it a terrorist act...it's the simplest way to define something like this and a very hot buzzword over the last decade +.

What is terrorism? It is using terror as a means of achieve a political goal. Was this gunman pursuing a political agenda through an act of terror? Or was he just a whack job? Only the ongoing investigation will reveals this...until then it's all just speculation on scant facts powered by a 24 hour news cycle.
 

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flowjoe said:
Of course they are calling it a terrorist act...it's the simplest way to define something like this and a very hot buzzword over the last decade +.

What is terrorism? It is using terror as a means of achieve a political goal. Was this gunman pursuing a political agenda through an act of terror? Or was he just a whack job? Only the ongoing investigation will reveals this...until then it's all just speculation on scant facts powered by a 24 hour news cycle.
This would be defined as "Religious terrorism" which is basically swapping the term "political" for "religious".


Here's a good read from Scientific American:

The 5 Myths of Terrorism
 

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Yeah, Cassius Clay. Gee, did converting have anything to do with skipping the draft?

I think 'skipping' is the term best used for the thousands of men who skipped out of the country to avoid the draft. Ali challenged the draft in court, explained his reasons, took his punishment, and later had his conviction unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court. His conversion may have had some bearing on his views at that time, as he stated that he would fight in a war if directed by Allah or his messenger.
It's interesting that this is a thread about events in Canada and then the subject of draft evasion comes up. How many thousands of present day Canadians are actually U.S. citizens who dodged the draft?
 

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onovakind67 said:
I think 'skipping' is the term best used for the thousands of men who skipped out of the country to avoid the draft. Ali challenged the draft in court, explained his reasons, took his punishment, and later had his conviction unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court. His conversion may have had some bearing on his views at that time, as he stated that he would fight in a war if directed by Allah or his messenger.
It's interesting that this is a thread about events in Canada and then the subject of draft evasion comes up. How many thousands of present day Canadians are actually U.S. citizens who dodged the draft?

Completely off topic
 




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