Yes I think its a good project too. At first I thought all the rust would be a killer-but am sure we can work through that. I have the new front floor pans and will patch up what the pans dont cover. Got a rad support from a member, new inner fenders, picked up fenders up at Carlisle in the spring. Lots of things to keep me busy once i get going. Flak--my frame rails are in outstanding condition, and I read your whole thread last night--you my friend are nothing short of amazing lol. Keep up the good work. My assistant will motivate me the most--we have had a lot of Dr visits with him lately--but everything looks good and the drs are very happy with his health. He was born with a half a heart and has had 3 heart surgeries, not that you would know it looking at him or watching him. Was given 2 weeks to live when born and is now 11--so we are blessed in that respect. He is eager to learn and wants to do what he calls the fun stuff on the car--painting, pulling stuff off lol--and it goes a little slow when we are in the garage, but its all good time spent together. OK back to the car--picked up ball joints, control arm bushings/shafts, brake calipers tonight and will get out there tomorrow morning and see what we can knock out. Want to get the subframe cleaned and painted without taking it off--any suggestions--Im all ears. I do have the SFB's so i may just pull the whole thing off--not sure yet. MGS--so what if its taking a long time, thats why they call it a hobby. dont give up on it, just go out and tinker around 10-15 mins a day--before you know it you'll be right back into it. Golf--i know what you mean about that nasty brown stuff--i will be learning how to weld here in a very short time.