Thank you GM, at least you are listening! (new Camaro related)

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  1. KJZ28

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    thats cool they are thinking that far ahead already, and i like that thinking. now if they can just make the rear end look a ilttle less like a sedan, and ill be more of a fan.
     
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    there will be aftermarket problems in the future with frequent chassis changes though. Some parts may never be reproduced due to one year only etc.
     
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    Seems more like a tactic to save money by utilizing parts from other vehicles, Not "catering to the consumer"
     
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    I don't care if it weighs less, I like making turns and weight is my enemy.
     
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    Not sure if they are listening to customers or just getting wise to the way the market is heading. The car needs to weigh less and make over 30 MPG. In 2010 if they can not do that then they are not being very realistic IMHO.

    I can not see an issue with sharing parts on multiple platforms. great way to reduce costs. VW has been doing it for years. Also help drive more aftermarket parts and keep the used parts donw on price (or it should anyways).
     
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    If you look at the comparable cars, here is how they stack up:

    Chevy Camaro (auto) - City - 18 Highway - 29 Average - 22
    Chevy Camaro (6sp) - City - 17 Highway - 29 Average - 21
    Ford Mustang (5sp) - City - 18 Highway - 26 Average - 21
    Dodger Challenger - City - 17 Highway - 25 Average - 20
    Ford Mustang (auto) - City - 16 Highway - 24 Average - 19

    The class leader is the Camaro. If they are the best at fuel economy in their class - who is being unrealistic?

    Now, that said, I think the idea of lightening up the Camaro is a good idea. Not just for the fuel economy, but for handling and overall performance also.

    Absolutely agree with this!

    If it reduces the cost (to GM) it could possibly hold down prices to the consumer. Reducing cost to GM helps the profitability, which is something desparately needed in the auto industry right now.

    Profits aren't a bad thing. They allow research and development to improve the product of the future.
     
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    Champ,
    I agree with your points however IMHO they should be breaking 30 MPG. Comparing the Camaro's fuel economy to a 4000 lb challenger is not the greatest achievement.

    I think that there is room for fine tuning and some better efficiency. More agressive on the weight issue and exploiting the cylinder deactivation more. It is just my opinion. We have to keep in mind that for 2010 they are running a pretty large engine.

    Again just my opinion but making them more fuel efficient only open the doors to more people buying them. I can not see a down side to improving the fuel economy, particularly if they are going to chop a bunch of weight off the car.
     
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    If I was to buy new, I'd still buy a Challenger before a fat pig Camaro. Buy yourself a 69 cause it'll hold it's value.

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    Champ.....the new mustang v6 is now getting over 30mpg on the highway with a 305hp v6. They made a completely new engine for 2011, so now its set the bar higher.
     

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