The perfect 2nd gen Camaro alignment specs

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  1. ULTM8Z

    ULTM8Z Veteran Member

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    Just got back from the alignment shop.... Couple of weeks I had replaced the upper and lower ball joints and put in the Moog offset control arm shafts (flipped around).

    Holy smokes, it's a totally different car now! :eek:

    .5° neg camber
    2.5° pos caster
    .25" total toe in

    Together with the AGR steering box (which I've had for a while)... Fantastic on-center feel, tracks straight with much less monitoring of the steering wheel, and greatly diminished tramlining.

    I went in asking for the Guldstrand touring specs. Didn't quite get as much caster as the spec (I understand it's difficult with factory upper a-arms), but I'm VERY happy with this car now. :cool:

    I'll drive it around like this for a while and then install the Y-braces for a good A to B comparison. The car feels great now, but If folks are saying the Y-braces are even more of an improvement... Can't wait to see! :)
     
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    Wow, that seems like a lot of toe.

    When I swapped the IROC box in mine I noticed a huge difference, way more than the Y-braces made...
     
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    The Guldstrand specs said 1/8". I assumed that was per side. Is it 1/8 total?

    If 1/8 is supposed to be total, I could probably let a little out on my own.
     
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    I could be wrong, but I was pretty sure that's total. I run 1/16 total on both my cars.
     
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    Definitely that value is TOTAL toe. And -1/8" is a lot of toe ... fix this quick or the outer tire tread shoulder will be mad. Shoot for closer to 1/16" toe-in total maximum.

    And yes ... OEM upper control arms suck for added caster.

    Mary Pozzi
     
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    Understood. Thanks Mary!
     
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    I've always run 1/16 toe in also.
     
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    Just reduced to 1/16 total. Thanks.
     
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    Yes 1/16" toe in- total!

    We really don't think that camber settings are as big a deal as most people thing. Likely you won't put 40,000 miles on your tires like your daily driver. I would bump the camber to 1* neg, and see if you can get more caster in the car. I will tell you that putting on a set of "good" aftermarket upper arms will allow you to get the 5* of caster you need for improved steering feel and feedback. People really don't understand the benefits of swapping in a performance steering box and upper control arms. Steering feel is one of the biggest upgrades you can do to improve these cars, and is often overlooked
     
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    I could try sticking another shim in the rear control arm bolt and see if that improves things.
     

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