Chevyforever
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this makes me wonder if ProSystems just buys up the junk holley parts and that's why their carbs suckProbably around 45 years ago, I was having coffee with a parts store co-owner. We had a discussion about, of all things, spark plugs. He was the purchasing agent for their group of family owned stores. There was a new parts store that had just opened right up the street. I asked him why the new store could sell the same plug for $.99 and theirs were $1.99. Don't know if this was true, BS or damage control, but his response was there were 3 grades for most plugs and other components. Lets call them A,B, and C. He said A was the standard, B didn't meet all the test criteria, and C was just junk. He said 'We sell A, new stores sells C".
I had the same discussion with my cousin, who was the head chemist for 31 years with the paint company I use. I told him there was a lesser brand of clears and primers that acted just like what he had developed and were much cheaper. Even smelled the same. He told me they were the same, almost. He said the product had the same ingredients but had to pass 5 tests, one being cross-linking. If they didn't pass all 5, they would get sold off to this other company, and the reason was pure economics. Either pay to have it hauled as hazardous waste or sell it off. So quality control is nothing new. Made me think about spark plugs, throw them away or sell them?
I use NGK in everything anymore. I have had multiple failures with AC in DD's, from BBC's to V6's. Autolite didn't perform well in race applications.
JME
Back in the 1977 and earlier time frame, when I started in the Chevy dealership parts dept, I'd known that auto supplies and such sold AC plugs at good prices, much less than the dealership MSRP for them. One day, I inquired about that. Seems that AC Spark Plug had several layers of customers. Of course, the captive supplier for GM, for which they charged one (apparentlhy higher) price, then to the auto supply jobbers, which got a lower price (probably varying tiers here, due to sales volume). Which explained why our friend with a decent-size indepentent auto supply could sell the plugs for more than 1/2 price of the Chevy MSRP and still make money. In the middle of all of this were the OEM Jobber vendors, which a GM parts manager could buy from at GM cost -10% or so. So AC Spark Plug had various levels of customers, all of whom got different pricing. In the current times, the jobbers are now geared more toward private shops as GM has removed the majority of the advantages of dealers doing business with them for their normal "stock" parts.Probably around 45 years ago, I was having coffee with a parts store co-owner. We had a discussion about, of all things, spark plugs. He was the purchasing agent for their group of family owned stores. There was a new parts store that had just opened right up the street. I asked him why the new store could sell the same plug for $.99 and theirs were $1.99. Don't know if this was true, BS or damage control, but his response was there were 3 grades for most plugs and other components. Lets call them A,B, and C. He said A was the standard, B didn't meet all the test criteria, and C was just junk. He said 'We sell A, new stores sells C".
I had the same discussion with my cousin, who was the head chemist for 31 years with the paint company I use. I told him there was a lesser brand of clears and primers that acted just like what he had developed and were much cheaper. Even smelled the same. He told me they were the same, almost. He said the product had the same ingredients but had to pass 5 tests, one being cross-linking. If they didn't pass all 5, they would get sold off to this other company, and the reason was pure economics. Either pay to have it hauled as hazardous waste or sell it off. So quality control is nothing new. Made me think about spark plugs, throw them away or sell them?
I use NGK in everything anymore. I have had multiple failures with AC in DD's, from BBC's to V6's. Autolite didn't perform well in race applications.
JME