Tesla Manufacturing Problems

[Da_Raabi]

In Daytona Beach I see Teslas all the time. While not as common as a Ford, I still see at least one a day on the road. They seem like nice enough cars in person.

 

[The Champ]

$4k closer Champ-

https://electrek.co/2018/10/18/tesla-model-3-mid-range-battery-pricing-structure/

I think the appearance of the mid-range caught everyone by surprise.

You beat me to it Todd....

I think it's very telling that Musk is making the announcement now for the slightly "lower" priced version (still $10,000 over the price of the car he's been promising to deliver for nearly 3 years).

Demand for the more expensive versions is dwindling, so he was forced into offering a lower priced car in order to keep his factory busy.

What Musk is forgetting is that he previously announced that only orders made by October 15th will be able to be produced by year end, and he made this "exciting" announcement on October 17th.

January 1st, the tax credit drops to $3750 - so basically this car will be virtually the same price as the $49,000.00 version is today.

What it does do, is put off manufacturing the $35,000 version even longer (probably forever) - virtually guaranteeing that no one will ever see the $3750 tax credit on the original (mythical) base Model 3.

And Mr. Musk, not everyone lives in CA, so that $35,000 "net" cost is bogus for the vast majority of Americans.

You can always tell when Musk is lying - if his lips are moving or his fingers are on a digital device.

 

[dave@ztech]

Still have to love the American spirit , he is producing cars , and if Ford, had all of the detractors he had, when he first started building cars, with the premise, that everyone should be able to afford a car, I wonder where we would have been , if he said, screw it, Musk is a character , no doubt , however, I still like his can do attitude , the type that helped build America, with out all the nasty bits from the likes of Carnegie, Edison , maybe he should change his name to Nikola Tesla, as he got no respect either .
Just my .02

 

[carr911]

there is a New Tesla "Dealership" about a mile from my house. Built a few months ago - they still don't have a single car!

 

[McCune]

Plenty of Tesla automobiles in St George Utah, see them everyday. I hope I can own one someday.

 

[The Champ]

Still have to love the American spirit , he is producing cars , and if Ford, had all of the detractors he had, when he first started building cars, with the premise, that everyone should be able to afford a car, I wonder where we would have been , if he said, screw it, Musk is a character , no doubt , however, I still like his can do attitude , the type that helped build America, with out all the nasty bits from the likes of Carnegie, Edison , maybe he should change his name to Nikola Tesla, as he got no respect either .
Just my .02

Henry Ford was competing with the horse and buggy - lot's of detractors.

Ford started the current Ford Motor Company in 1903. He sold 1708 cars that year.

He built 15 Million Model T's from 1908 - 1927. In 1914, Ford produced more cars than all other automakers combined.

In 1908, the Model T was $850.00. In today's dollars that's a little over $21,000. By 1925 the price of the same Model T touring car was down to $300.00 as Ford literally invented the assembly line for mass production.

In 1916 alone, Ford built over 734,000 Model T's. By 1917 Ford had built over 2,500,000 cars overall since the company was founded.

Ford under promised and over delivered.

100 years later, Tesla was born. In 15 years, Tesla produced 200,000 cars total, a mere 12% of what Ford did.

For some reason, I'm really not impressed with Elon Musk and his minuscule production numbers.

Musk could learn a lot by studying Henry Ford.

 

[SS Performance]

Ford did not invent the assembly line. The first auto plant with an assembly line was Olds and other industries had been using assembly lines for years.

After Henry Ford visited the Olds plant his factory just happened to burn down and when he rebuilt he installed his first assembly line.

 

[The Champ]

Ford did not invent the assembly line. The first auto plant with an assembly line was Olds and other industries had been using assembly lines for years.

After Henry Ford visited the Olds plant his factory just happened to burn down and when he rebuilt he installed his first assembly line.

Let me correct myself, Ford invented the "moving" assembly line.

Ransom Olds did start the stationary assembly line in 1904, but it wasn't nearly as efficient as what Ford introduced in September of 1913. What did the moving assembly line do to production???

The highest Oldsmobile production figure in those early years of the industry was 6500 in 1905. In 1906, Oldsmobile production dropped to 1600. Ford built over 8700 in 1905 - prior to starting the moving production line.

In 1912, the last year without a moving production line, Ford produced 78,440 vehicles. In 1913, the partial year with the moving assembly line, Ford produced 168,220 vehicles. In 1914, Ford hit 308,162 vehicles. In 1915, Ford produced their 1,000,000th vehicle in it's 12th year of existence - and built just over 500,000 in that year alone.

And people get excited about Musk excited about Musk hitting 200,000 in 15 years (with 100 years of technology to improve production capabilities and a backlog of over 400,000 deposits on cars he still refuses to build (because he claimed that he could build the car for $35,000 - and can't).

 

[The Champ]

Just days after making the big announcement of a lower priced Model 3....

Tesla increases price of its new cheapest Model 3 just days after launch...

https://electrek.co/2018/10/24/tesla-model-3-mid-range-price-increases-price/

The new $45,000 mid range Model 3 is now $46,000...

The Tesla apologists are claiming that the increased price is due to demand.

I guess PT Barnum was almost right...

But then, PT never knew Elon Musk...

 

[dave@ztech]

Palo Alto, CA — Independent testing by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has awarded the Tesla Model S a 5-star safety rating, not just overall, but in every subcategory without exception. Approximately one percent of all cars tested by the federal government achieve 5 stars across the board.

Pretty cheap for one of the safest cars tested!!